Ford 4600

[ford4000]

Evening all, does anyone know what the oil flow on a 4600 is like ? I've got one here that does nothing all summer, and wondered if it would be any good on a bale wrapper. Tried a Ford 4000 on the wrapper once and it was useless, turntable was turning REALLY slowly!!! Presume a 4600 would be the same?
Old red David brown was much better at the job

 

[agrimax]

Oil flow for both Fords would only be around 5 gpm. Would maybe be about 10-12 gpm if there is a secondary pump at the back of the engine as well.Think the old Browns were around 7.5 gpm.

 

[Ysgythan]

Evening all, does anyone know what the oil flow on a 4600 is like ? I've got one here that does nothing all summer, and wondered if it would be any good on a bale wrapper. Tried a Ford 4000 on the wrapper once and it was useless, turntable was turning REALLY slowly!!! Presume a 4600 would be the same?
Old red David brown was much better at the job

I'll look it up

 

[multi power]

Would it be worth fitting a axuncillury pump

 

[ford4000]

Oil flow for both Fords would only be around 5 gpm. Would maybe be about 10-12 gpm if there is a secondary pump at the back of the engine as well.Think the old Browns were around 7.5 gpm.

That's what I feared...no second pump on it unfortunately [emoji106]

 

[ford4000]

I'll look it up

[emoji1] I thought you knew the flow rate of all 1973- 1985 tractors!

 

[ford4000]

Would it be worth fitting a axuncillury pump

I don't know what that entails. ..pto pump, oil tank etc. ?

 

[multi power]

I don't know what that entails. ..pto pump, oil tank etc. ?

Goes on side of engine, drive off flywheel, just the same as 10 series

 

[Nearly]

Goes on side of engine, drive off flywheel, just the same as 10 series

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-7610...756131?hash=item33c2932863:g:Z~oAAOSwImRYIJMs

 

[multi power]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-7610...756131?hash=item33c2932863:g:Z~oAAOSwImRYIJMs

What else would be needed ?

 

[Nearly]

What else would be needed ?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-7610...2540e19&pid=100005&rk=2&rkt=6&sd=222307756131

hacksaw and a bit of time?

 

[multi power]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-7610-7810-7910-8210-Auxiliary-Hydraulic-Pump-Pressure-Feed-Pipes/222324787502?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid=222007&algo=SIC.MBE&ao=2&asc=38661&meid=9247f92a3ead4d43ac8080b852540e19&pid=100005&rk=2&rkt=6&sd=222307756131

hacksaw and a bit of time?

Isn't there a priority valve? I was going to do this on my 6610 but couldn't work it out

 

[Roy_H]

Evening all, does anyone know what the oil flow on a 4600 is like ? I've got one here that does nothing all summer, and wondered if it would be any good on a bale wrapper. Tried a Ford 4000 on the wrapper once and it was useless, turntable was turning REALLY slowly!!! Presume a 4600 would be the same?
Old red David brown was much better at the job

As fast as you like if you could rig up a PTO driven pump on her!

 

[John 1594]

As fast as you like if you could rig up a PTO driven pump on her!

We put a KV wrapper on the 14 a few years back, with the tandem pumps engaged and a few revs, it was bloody lethal, made mockery of the blokes 7341 zetor and the speed that could spin it round at

 

[cfr1964]

Evening all, does anyone know what the oil flow on a 4600 is like ? I've got one here that does nothing all summer, and wondered if it would be any good on a bale wrapper. Tried a Ford 4000 on the wrapper once and it was useless, turntable was turning REALLY slowly!!! Presume a 4600 would be the same?
Old red David brown was much better at the job

Oil flow on a 4600 is a bit better than a 4000 I think it's about 30l/min
Our old 46 would work our lawerence Edwards wrapper quite happily back in the day
Was actually better suited to it than the 10 series which turned it slightly fast even at tickover with the flow control turned to tortoise

 

[Nearly]

Isn't there a priority valve? I was going to do this on my 6610 but couldn't work it out

No idea. Haven't any 10 series to go and look at.

 

[Drillman]

Our old 7610 would happily run the KV wrapper all day on tickover at a speed that was plenty fast enough.

The TMs need to have the oil flow turned well down on the mchale or it tries to take off. The Reno on the other hand is hopeless and needs revving just to get to an acceptable speed.

 

[7610 super q]

Isn't there a priority valve? I was going to do this on my 6610 but couldn't work it out

There will be yes. Adding an auxiliary pump would be fairly complicated IMO.
I'd sell the 4600 for £3k, and buy a 7610 for £7k myself.......

 

[John 1594]

There will be yes. Adding an auxiliary pump would be fairly complicated IMO.
I'd sell the 4600 for £3k, and buy a 7610 for £7k myself.......

Be cheaper to buy a scrap hedger and rob the hydraulic system off it and graft that onto the wrapper!!!

or the other option, mentioned in the last bit of the OP

 

[John 1594]

As an aside, having only ever used a wrapper a few times (you dont see that many of them in the fen obviously)...what would be considered the optimum speed to run them at...the KV mounted wrapper we was using was running at just over a full turn every second