Ford 4610 lass of traction

GavinJ

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Location
Powys
I putting bales out in muddy conditions why not just use a back spike ?
We do but the tractor struggles to get out with the bale on anyway and getting back from the field with no bale has proved impossible too. In the end we used another tractor with the rear spike and no problem.
 

Bury the Trash

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Mixed Farmer
10 hundred by 16 fronts and the 16.9 30 ties should be alright on the back (new or less worn ones)
But with no less than a 3/4 ton weight on the back (y)
 

Bury the Trash

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Mixed Farmer
....On the loader.

Anyway, a quick hitch a frame and receiver is the way too go, fixed to a counter weight built from concrete in an old water tank ? . Work out how much concrete it needs on paper before hand .
Then it's worth making up a decent 'platform ' to unhook it on, then when the weight is dropped on the 'platform' it just needs to be at rest tilting forwards a certain amount to help it slip off and to help rehooking it on again (y)
Get it set up right and hes on and off in 2 twinks.
 

JackoTS90

Member
Livestock Farmer
....On the loader.

Anyway, a quick hitch a frame and receiver is the way too go, fixed to a counter weight built from concrete in an old water tank ? . Work out how much concrete it needs on paper before hand .
Then it's worth making up a decent 'platform ' to unhook it on, then when the weight is dropped on the 'platform' it just needs to be at rest tilting forwards a certain amount to help it slip off and to help rehooking it on again (y)
Get it set up right and hes on and off in 2 twinks.

Like this. Be perfect.

 

wdah/him

Member
Location
tyrone
when a 2wd tire gets below 40%, it loses a lot of its grip for a slippy time, reguardless of make I find, even a 4wd with poor fronts needs weights to be as effective as new tires without weights.

for me you either need more rear weight or new tires
 

JackoTS90

Member
Livestock Farmer
I have always been unsure of duals as I thought they were intended to spread the weight over a bigger area which is effectively what the current wider tyres are doing so wouldn't they make things worse?

No. Sould make it float so it won’t get stuck and will have twice the surface area, more power to the Ground
 

Drillman

Member
Mixed Farmer
The answer here is simple.

Wide tyres on front for flotation, rear tyres just need some tread on them regardless of width.

Most important bit is the rear weight. Needs to be on a quick hitch frame, and I would say if there is no bale on the loader with a bit of provocation the tractor should be able to do a wheelie. If not make the weight bigger/heavier!
 

Richard98

Member
Our Massey 50 2wd industrial loader has always had a concrete weight on the back but for loading muck dad used to fill the back tyres with water and hang an old sprayer tank on the back of the concrete weight, he said it would go anywhere with that lot on. He always regretted not having 4wd but grandad wouldn't have it, 4wd would never catch on. The issue though is the 50 has a hell of a subframe from front to back whereas your tractor would be unlikely to stick that much weight without a full frame I would think
 

Bury the Trash

Member
Mixed Farmer
A loader with a frame to the back axle helps in that way.
but Yes Theres an optimum with it of course...just as too wide a tyre on the front will cause skating on slippery sideways surface or when steering , 10.00 x 16 is about the biggest to get with 3 rib pattern as well, few side knobs on those 3 ribs would help keep the wheel turning also

as well as a bigger rolling radius / diameter of the wheel helps it keep turning specially when steering, this is where a 4wd gains big time,
 

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