Ford Bridgend plant under threat

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Started coming off new line at St Athan this week.
Don't know how many will sell compared to the ford fiesta's ?
 
None of it has anything to do with Brexit and I'm not sure I would seek advice on anything regarding economics from Japan.

Ford are being killed in Europe and before long their model range will be nothing more than a badge engineering exercise out of a VAG parts bin. Vauxhall have done the same with PSA. All the major value-end European car manufacturers are being creamed by the Koreans. Not hard to see why when you can buy a Kia or similar with a 7 year 150,000 mile warranty for similar money to a Ford. With numbers like that, are you really that fussed about the badge on the front?

Within 15 years a lot of the names in the car market you know today will be ancient history or exist only in name. Who the heck wants a collection of factories all designed to manufacture engines when electric motors are a mature technology you can buy off the shelf? There will be huge restructuring taking place in the car industry over the next decade simply because of that. For decades these companies have sank billions into engine technology and emissions and now the whole lot is redundant and worth little more than scrap. I have no doubt whatsoever that within years we will look on petrol and diesel cars as we do big V8s today- nice but simply not needed for 95% of motorists.

You can talk about the cost of batteries all you want but you can lease them and never have to worry about the cost of replacement. I was reading an automotive blog about a guy with a Nissan leaf who had managed to drive 1200 miles in one month and it had cost him just £7 in electric. That isn't a typo- it's £7 measly pounds and from what I have read on various forums he is not alone. I can't even buy the required volume of high-spec engine oil for both our Volvos for that kind of money per month let alone the fuel they consume annually.
 

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None of it has anything to do with Brexit and I'm not sure I would seek advice on anything regarding economics from Japan.

Ford are being killed in Europe and before long their model range will be nothing more than a badge engineering exercise out of a VAG parts bin. Vauxhall have done the same with PSA. All the major value-end European car manufacturers are being creamed by the Koreans. Not hard to see why when you can buy a Kia or similar with a 7 year 150,000 mile warranty for similar money to a Ford. With numbers like that, are you really that fussed about the badge on the front?

Within 15 years a lot of the names in the car market you know today will be ancient history or exist only in name. Who the heck wants a collection of factories all designed to manufacture engines when electric motors are a mature technology you can buy off the shelf? There will be huge restructuring taking place in the car industry over the next decade simply because of that. For decades these companies have sank billions into engine technology and emissions and now the whole lot is redundant and worth little more than scrap. I have no doubt whatsoever that within years we will look on petrol and diesel cars as we do big V8s today- nice but simply not needed for 95% of motorists.

You can talk about the cost of batteries all you want but you can lease them and never have to worry about the cost of replacement. I was reading an automotive blog about a guy with a Nissan leaf who had managed to drive 1200 miles in one month and it had cost him just £7 in electric. That isn't a typo- it's £7 measly pounds and from what I have read on various forums he is not alone. I can't even buy the required volume of high-spec engine oil for both our Volvos for that kind of money per month let alone the fuel they consume annually.

Yep.
There's enough ICE motors about in the UK already, to keep us going until well into full electric powered transport supremacy. Why produce more junk for the willy wavers to dispose of at our cost?
 

SFI - What % were you taking out of production?

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Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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As reported in Independent


quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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