have the engines from the scrapped pickups come on the market
Ford ranger 2.2 engine siezed
- Thread starter Pwleeds
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I hope ineos come up with a practical veichle. That's what I want. Don't need carpets, electric windows(although the only decent bit of the electrics), don't need electric seats, or cruise control or wifi speakers or sat nav or air con or reverse parking sensors or all the bollox that japs seem to want.
All I want is a dependable 4x4 which will tow a livestock trailer to market and not get stuck to often. Oh and a bumper I can knock gates open as they close on me with out damaging multi coloured co ordinated shitty plastic whole wrap around bumbers.
Show me a 20 year old pickups still about, like rocking horse sh!t, because they are sh!t. End of my rant
All I want is a dependable 4x4 which will tow a livestock trailer to market and not get stuck to often. Oh and a bumper I can knock gates open as they close on me with out damaging multi coloured co ordinated shitty plastic whole wrap around bumbers.
Show me a 20 year old pickups still about, like rocking horse sh!t, because they are sh!t. End of my rant
suffolksmallholder
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- Suffolk
I know what you mean here!
One of the reasons to get a 300 series LR & put it on a galvanised chassis plus buy all the spares you can now & store them for the next decade. Or else look at an http://oxgvt.com/the-ox-all-terrain-vehicle/
SS
Yes but get a td5 or a tdi, best trucks LR did, I bought a 2.4 tdci Landry and hated how it felt, plastic shitty dial for the fans and shitty gear box. Sold it and kept my td5. Things nowadays are built to a cost not to an ideal. Look at most things built 25 years ago. They had engineering and quality at their heart, now things are just engineered with in an inch of their life.
Oh ok
Cowabunga
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Ford 2.2 is at the end of its production life and will not still be made in two year's time. All 2.0 and 2.2 Ford engines are being replaced by a brand new 2.0 engine family that is already about in Transit and possibly some Ford cars. It has, by all accounts, a timing belt running wet with oil and is significantly more refined, more reliable, economical and cleaner than any other current Ford engine. Or so Ford would have us believe.
Question is, whether Ford will rectify any significant fault found running the engine long term. Current experience with Ranger owners is that they will not, although other brands that buy those engines [like LR did] may have better luck holding them to account.
kiwi pom
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Think they all come with a 2.8 here.
The Ranger has been the best seller here for a year or so now but I think the Hilux has out sold them in the last couple of months but trails "year to date".
Toyota also have the Land cruiser 70 here of course, 4.5l V8 but you need deep pockets for them.
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- Lincolnshire
Yes the cars (Galaxy/smax etc) used to have 2.2 if you wanted 180hp or more up until 3 years ago, they all seem to have 2.0 now whatever the power up to 210hp, I believe this came in when they all went Euro6.
The Euro6 rangers have adblue, which the cars dont need, makes you wonder why they keep making the 2.2?
Cowabunga
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It could be that they now only make the 2.2 at the Struandale, South Africa engine plant and not in the UK.
The Euro7 regulations will soon be upon us and that is when the 2.2 engine will be replaced by the 2.0 and 3.0 Lion V6. They will both run Adblue and indeed the 2.0 is currently known as the 2 litre EcoBlue engine, codename 'Panther', built first at Dagenham before inevitably also being built at Stuandale.
In some installations it will have two year or 35,000 mile oil change/service intervals.
Here's hoping that it will ever reach its third oil change without seizing up at the owner's expense due to some basic design fault eh.
As an aside I would not be at all surprised if Ford shut down all engine production in the UK and moved them to continental Europe sooner rather than later. The Welsh petrol engine factory at Bridgend is already well on the slippery slope to closure.
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Herefordhop123
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Had a 3.2 ranger as company vehicle for 3 years. New engine, head gasket, broken down 6-10 times a year. Recovered to a garage, Ford service and aftercare non existent. I’m honestly not one for slating manufacturers but I don’t know how their still selling them. Seeing more and more Navaras on the road, hopefully capitalising on fords crap business model.
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Friend of mine would totally agree with you. He'd had three rangers before and was very happy with them. His fourth was shocking only made worse by the terrible attitude of the dealer and ford themselves. It will be a very long time before he darkens a ford dealership door.
Cowabunga
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Ford and one or two other brands have lost the plot in recent years. They are as bad as BL/LR/Jaguar once were and we all know what happened to BL.
Arrogance with lack of customer service will not end well for Ford. The same is true of the lying, cheating arrogant VW group and their future customer service prospects don't look good either. VW is being forced to cut costs very drastically in order to survive as a company, due to the engine emission scandal that has ruined the diesel engine sales and used values for everyone. It is costing them literally billions, which means that they must make massive cutbacks and my guess is that they will cut back both on quality and customer service, including rejecting or ignoring warranty and remedial issues, just like Ford do. Time will tell. I certainly wouldn't buy either brand or brands as a first choice at the moment.
Nothing against the products themselves currently. They are good products and I've had near zero issues with my Ranger. However, the way they are ignoring this engine oil starvation issue, selectively and specifically for Ranger customers, gets my goat.
Arrogance with lack of customer service will not end well for Ford. The same is true of the lying, cheating arrogant VW group and their future customer service prospects don't look good either. VW is being forced to cut costs very drastically in order to survive as a company, due to the engine emission scandal that has ruined the diesel engine sales and used values for everyone. It is costing them literally billions, which means that they must make massive cutbacks and my guess is that they will cut back both on quality and customer service, including rejecting or ignoring warranty and remedial issues, just like Ford do. Time will tell. I certainly wouldn't buy either brand or brands as a first choice at the moment.
Nothing against the products themselves currently. They are good products and I've had near zero issues with my Ranger. However, the way they are ignoring this engine oil starvation issue, selectively and specifically for Ranger customers, gets my goat.
Johnnyboxer
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- Yorkshire
I was in a Ford main dealer this afternoon and the sales guy was v proud of his Rangers, out front
Best selling pickup, top of the pops, eats the competition for breakfast
Nothing comes close
Perhaps he should pop his head in the service bay, from time to time
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I hope you put him straight about that?
Tell him to have a read on here , he might learn something.
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I do sometimes wonder if some salesmen start to believe their own hype? Either that or they don't mix with the mechanics/fitters at their own depots?