Ford ranger engine/injector problem

YELROM

Member
Location
North Yorkshire
Our 2 1/2 year old 26000mile Ford ranger developed an engine fault/misfire so went back to the dealers as it was still under its 3year warranty.
They initially diagnosed a faulty injector and would fit a new one under warranty,anyway fitted it and it did not cure the problem so pressure tested it and found it low on pressure on a cylinder so took the head off and found the bore was scored then the problems begin!
The garage contacted Ford about warranty and they said it had had water in the fuel and it was not warranty, so i asked the garage to test the fuel filter and the tank for water and they found no trace of water. I then assumed it would be covered by warranty again but Ford have now came back and said they had miss diagnosed it and it is acid from bio diesel that has caused the damage and it could have been used up to 6months ago so a fuel sample would not show it up.
So asked the garage to see any reports from tests of the old injector to which they said non had been done, so i asked to see the report Ford had done when they had been out to inspect the engine/injector and again no one had been out to inspect it.
They are now basically saying it is the end of the road unless solicitors get involved and i will have to pay around £6500 to get it repaired!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How can they say it is acid from bio fuel with out any tests or proof, where do i go from here?
 

Mursal

Member
Legal advice needed, in my opinion they cannot tell it was due to bad fuel. Blaming the fuel is an old trick used by Toyota on more than one occasion, so you'll have to play hard.
Ask for your old injector, if you don't already have it, as I doubt there was anything wrong with it? Short motor (bottom half of engine) probably costing Ford less than £1000 and they are looking over 6 times that from you and it shouldn't have happened. Are they the same engine as Mazda, might be worth Googlying for engine problems?
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
Ford has an especially poor record when it comes to trying to evade legitimate warranty claims. However they are all at it. Don't put up with it. Try for maximum publicity and do get the NFU or other Union involved. Don't let the barstewards get away with it.

While I am satisfied with my Ranger so far, things like this and the [lack of] availability of parts in a timely fashion have ensured that I will have no loyalty whatsoever to Ford when it comes time to change.
The T6 2.2 engine, which is what you might have, is a Ford engine as used in the Transit and Defender. The earlier 2.4 used in the Ranger is not a Ford engine but a Mazda engine.

I certainly don't believe that Ford cheat the emission test with their 2.2, because it is lethargic off the mark and suffers from flat spots and is on the thirsty side too. Thank goodness I have the automatic which masks it all apart from the lethargy. I have a mate who has a fleet of Transits that he hires out and the 2.2 is not a consistent engine, in that its performance and noise varies greatly from one example to another.

The 3.2 five cylinder has had a number of known issues in the Ranger. From a chaffing water pipe to oil pump to turbo problems. As far as I know it has had far more issues than the 2.2 engine. Remember that many Transits do massive mileage and are driven very hard [which might be a 'good thing'].
 

james ds

Member
Location
leinster
I'll be changing my hilux shortly and the one pickup I was going to change to was the ford ranger , thank you for this information , as this now rules out the FORD RANGER for ever , thank you.
 

cletracboy

Member
Location
Staffordshire
Rather worrying as I have a 2yr old Ranger.
When we had an Isuzu trooper 3L it had the common problem with the injectors which damaged the engine and needed a new short block, Isuzu were brilliant and replaced all the parts FOC despite it being well out of warrenty and quite high mileage, so not all manufacturers are the same.
 

Bloders

Member
Location
Ruabon
I have no expeirience in this.
Id ask for vehicle back and all parts which have been removed. advise everything in writing as you feel if its had bad fuel in, get the injector pump stripped down as there will be evidence one way or another.

If necessary get it checked out. easiest place to start is getting injectors checked out by a diesel specialist which wont cost much.
 

Diperk Perkins

New Member
Yelrom my advice would be to recover all injectors and take them to an accredited fuel injection service centre. The faulty unit should be identified and cylinders numbers if there is a fault I would expect it to be hosing, which is an over fuel or poor atomisation issue. This is fairly common and not normally related to bio diesel. I would expect to see common damage if it were this issue. If all units come back ok you have a case and if that unit comes back faulty alone you have a case if all come back as faulty you have less of a case as this could be sub standard fuel damage. Hope this helps.

Diperk are the sole authorised Perkins distribution for the UK, Canada and South America.
 

PSQ

Member
Arable Farmer
Rather worrying as I have a 2yr old Ranger.
Rather worrying, as I have a 3 year old Ranger, and the warranty ran out 2 months ago. In Fords defence, the village garage were doing the MOT at 37 months (yes, I was a bit slow) and noticed a broken leaf in a rear spring. Phoned local Ford dealer and they managed to get the part and do the repair FoC. They also fixed the 11 pin socket for the tow bar which is apparently known to be soft, also FoC.
I appreciate its no where near the caliber of an engine failure though.

Yelrom, is all fuel from forecourts, or is some from a farm supply?...
 

YELROM

Member
Location
North Yorkshire
Well have contacted citizens advice and they say that it is my responsability to prove the fuel was not at fault, so going to send the injectors of for testing so fingers crossed.
 

Drillman

Member
Mixed Farmer
this is very disappointing as I'm pretty much sold on the new model Ranger as my next motor.

suppose I could always look at the VW anorak as I'm sure there will be some cheap ones about.
 

Mursal

Member
Have you any mates wearing a suit and working in law, it might be a good time to call in a few favours.
Citizens advice will not be ruthless enough to give good advice dealing with Ford, just my opinion.
You need to spread the love with a few letters, the expensive type ...............
 

bobk

Member
Location
stafford
Have you any mates wearing a suit and working in law, it might be a good time to call in a few favours.
Citizens advice will not be ruthless enough to give good advice dealing with Ford, just my opinion.
You need to spread the love with a few letters, the expensive type ...............

Yes , better going to trading standards first , it's either under warranty or not ... going legal is a last resort and ford know that's the case .
 

Archie

Member
Cattle foot trimming man that comes here had a new style ranger that scored an injector.
Ford put a new engine in it under warranty.
 

Archie

Member
Do you know anymore details about what was the cause and how he managed to get it under warranty

Afraid not. Just asked him a year ago or so how he liked it and he told me it was on it's second engine. Certainly never mentioned anything about there being any hassle or problem in getting Ford to do it.
 

YELROM

Member
Location
North Yorkshire
Well i rang the garage and told them i was going to collect the injectors and get them tested independently,so went the next day assuming they would of removed them but they hadn't and just offered to lend me some spanners (thought this might be some bizarre way of voiding warranty if i took them off) but i refused and made them remove them.
The lads in the garage were spot on and got chatting to one of them while removing injectors and he said the same had happened to a transit (same engine) a few months back and the customer was told it was water damage the same as i was, but they were desperate for it back so just payed for the repair.
Only got three injectors to test as the faulty one that was there the day before, had been sent back to Ford as warranty was approved on it:shifty: and i would have no chance of getting it back.
So got the results back on the three injectors and the are all ok and Ford have approved the warranty on the injector but still refuse to mend the damage caused by it!!!!
So were do i go know other than the solicitors?
 

Bloders

Member
Location
Ruabon
have you got it in writing they will repair the injector under warranty?
This would suggest admission of liability, so get that bit in writing, (or record the conversation) and then send a letter by recorded delivery, acknowledging their admission of liability and requesting the other work be done. State in it that if they do not agree to it, you will proceed with legal action etc. Then get your solicitor on it.
 

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