Ford ranger stopped dead

There's stopped dead as in stopped like you'd turned key off and there's made a noise, rattle, bang or dash lit up like Christmas before it stopped. As far as I'm aware if you're on a decent road at speed if it's oil pump failure by the time the oil light comes on jobs already fu**ed.
 

dave mountain

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+Navara engines ;-)

New Ranger (& transit) with the ecoblue (oil immersed timing belt) are a definite purchase no no also.
oil immersed timing belt just seems ridiculous, making backwards steps in engineering. My oldest pick up was gear driven so near 100% maintenance free, then every one after has been belt driven which is a fair compromise IMO, and never had a problem. Had a chain driven car and that snapped/blew up. Chains, and even more so oil immersed belts are just asking for problems, and trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist. a belt/idler/tensioner kit for £60 every 100k miles seems very sensible vs serious engine issues with other engine types
 

Timbo

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oil immersed timing belt just seems ridiculous, making backwards steps in engineering. My oldest pick up was gear driven so near 100% maintenance free, then every one after has been belt driven which is a fair compromise IMO, and never had a problem. Had a chain driven car and that blew up. Chains, and even more so oil immersed belts are just asking for problems, and trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist.

The idea is kind of ok ish. Problem is the execution. It's a major job to strip the front of the engine to replace it, the belt itself is substandard and is very sensitive to the oil that is used, and in either case, it sheds material from day one that gets trapped in the oil pickup slowly starving the engine of oil.

When the belt breaks it smashes all the rockers & cams which are an assembled unit to replace as a whole, and if that doesn't write off the vehicle, it will in-time seize solid from lack of oil. Around 90-100k is their typical life span. You can of course replace the belt and clean the strainer (£1500ish) and replace the oil every 5k using only the correct ford 5w-20 WSS-M2C950-A oil, but we all know that doesnt happen with Farm trucks
 

dave mountain

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The idea is kind of ok ish. Problem is the execution. It's a major job to strip the front of the engine to replace it, the belt itself is substandard and is very sensitive to the oil that is used, and in either case, it sheds material from day one that gets trapped in the oil pickup slowly starving the engine of oil.

When the belt breaks it smashes all the rockers & cams which are an assembled unit to replace as a whole, and if that doesn't write off the vehicle, it will in-time seize solid from lack of oil. Around 90-100k is their typical life span. You can of course replace the belt and clean the strainer (£1500ish) and replace the oil every 5k using only the correct ford 5w-20 WSS-M2C950-A oil, but we all know that doesnt happen with Farm trucks
still seems bonkers and unnecessary. On my hilux and LC the belts last 100k and its a 20 minute job to change (about 40 mins on the hilux), and you can put a massive variety of oil in them without problems (though i am quite anal about oil tbh). my new hilux (not recieved yet) is chain driven and tbh id rather it was belt, but it still seemed the best bet of all the new engines on the market currently.

What’s wrong with L200 engines?
head gaskets still going even on the new ones, although less common now than the on the older models

really quite annoying about mitsubishi and nissan, they both make/made good quality 4x4s for abroad (pajero/shogun and patrol) but their pickups (and the engines they put in them) are built cheap cheap and mostly out of cheese

Nissan Y61 TD42 would be the only truck on earth better built than a LC, so why cant they make a decent pickup truck?
 
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Ok , the engine hasn’t seized , it’s turning over but doesn’t sound great , it is 2 year old with 45 km on it. Plenty of diesel in it to.

The idea is kind of ok ish. Problem is the execution. It's a major job to strip the front of the engine to replace it, the belt itself is substandard and is very sensitive to the oil that is used, and in either case, it sheds material from day one that gets trapped in the oil pickup slowly starving the engine of oil.

When the belt breaks it smashes all the rockers & cams which are an assembled unit to replace as a whole, and if that doesn't write off the vehicle, it will in-time seize solid from lack of oil. Around 90-100k is their typical life span. You can of course replace the belt and clean the strainer (£1500ish) and replace the oil every 5k using only the correct ford 5w-20 WSS-M2C950-A oil, but we all know that doesnt happen with Farm trucks
This something often overlooked when buying modern vehicles though and that is you are not just paying the purchase price on the day but also the long term running and servicing costs. Fair enough there are some clear poor quality parts and assembly methods but if you have a major failure from not following manufacturers servicing and fluid recommendations you have to accept some responsibility.
 

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