Foreign farmers thoughts on Trump

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by slim pickins, Jul 11, 2018.

  1. Osca

    Osca Member

    Grey hair?

    Sorry to be so shallow.

    Actually he's doing better as President than I thought he would ( unusual to be able to say that of any politician, even when the bar is set so low it's a trip hazard).

    He was foul over here in Scotland, with his wretched golf course, just as Lazy Sod says. In fact wasn't the smallholder who stood up to him so defiantly given the Scot of the Year Award? And well deserved too. However, what really became apparent from that fiasco was the dishonesty of other politicians - you know, the ones who take great pains to look honest while they smile and say the right things. Alex Salmond was well taken in, with the appalling result that the SNP rode roughshod over democratic processes, ecological laws and the rights and the wellbeing of the local people for the sake of Trump's cash. Personally I have never voted for them again.

    So they are ALL at it - in fact I think Trump's rivals are probably better at the dirty tricks stuff than he is. He is just louder than most. And he IS good at talking to Russia and North Korea; they understand his style.

    Edited to say that I have come to realise that he is a psychopath - clinically so, I mean, That wasn't intended to be an insult. He's probably safer shut in the White House where he can put his immense energy to good use whilst being steered and restrained and occasionally ignore by tiers of - does America have Civil Servants?
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  2. bovrill

    bovrill Member

    East Essex
    I thought I'd put the news on just now, Channel 4 news being the only one on at the time.
    Good grief, the newscasters are effectively having a little temper tantrum about this visit by Trump! It was fascinating to see just how much hatred they have for the man, and how it meant they couldn't actually string the words together to make a proper programme.
    Do Ch4 have to abide by the usual conditions of fairness? You get used to the BBC having their agenda, but at least they're good at getting it over subtly without looking like a petulant three year old who's just had his teddy bear taken away!
  3. Exfarmer

    Exfarmer Member

    Bury St Edmunds
    I used to have a lot of respect for John Snow, i have no flag for a certain Mr Trump but i find it appalling the disrespect for any foreign leader, who was democratically elected. Far different to the diffidence accorded to the nasty pieces of work so recently welcomed to these shores
  4. Tigger

    Tigger Member

    The way I see it is, just like many of the very top successful business leaders and CEOs, Trump has a ruthless streak and a 'get the job done at all costs' attitude, most unlike the average UK or USA politician, and that scares the poo out of the herd-mentality types and that means most of the media, which is generally run by hypocritical "we're tolerant liberals but hate anyone who doesn't conform to our narrow definitions of acceptability" types.

    Our media are used to successfully bullying the results they want out of the majority of people in the spotlight, so a Trump arrival is enough to cause meltdown (though as pointed out in another thread, in a classic example of double standards, they didn't seem bothered by the Kurd-destroying Turkish leader's visit... )
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  5. wanton dwarf

    wanton dwarf Member

    Yep .. it's taken Trump to highlight how fake many of the media outlets are.

    People need to take action by altering their viewing patterns to media that's not representative.

    But of course we still have state media where we have to pay for people who, like our politicians, don't represent us.
  6. smcapstick

    smcapstick Member

    Kirkby Lonsdale
    The guy is a bit of a tit. There’s no denying that.

    Is he a good president? Yes, on the whole I’d say so. GDP up, unemployment down, foreign investment up - that’s success.

    An effective leader does not necessarily have to be loved by all.
  7. Still Farming

    Still Farming Member

    Glamorgan Wales
    BBC News Sopal quoting from The Sun ???
  8. slim pickins

    slim pickins Member

    I think he is the right on every aspect. I can give a crap if people think it’s bigoted to not want people who have gotten here illegally.
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  9. Deerefarmer

    Deerefarmer Member

    Come on people,at end of the day any leader is still a human who puts his underwear on 1 leg at a time, just like anyone else
    Yes he is a unique individual,but it's what we voted for ,so right or wrong we can choose to make the best or worst of it
    Sorry to be such a sour bag,I just don't get how people either idolize or hate another person ,be it a politician or otherwise
    I mean it's not like we can change someone's character or personalities by bickering over them:scratchhead:
    Sorry ,rant over
    Can you tell I despise political debate :)
    Just my opinion, carry on
  10. dstudent

    dstudent Member

    sei_21259920.jpg I could not have put it better:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
  11. Jackov Altraids

    Such incisive political comment.
    It's pathetic, embarassing and completely pointless and if I was American I'd be offended whether I supported him or not.
    If they were attacking particular policies I would sympathise but attacking the individual makes them guilty of much of that which they accuse him of being.
  12. dstudent

    dstudent Member

    The man is a lair , everything he spouts if you take the time to fact check you ll see is just a lot of rubbish, a lot of smoke and mirrors,, huffing and puffing, using salient issues to get to people emotions and distract them form the reality of the complete , total take over the nation's government, judiciary and financial systems by private interests especially the Exxon-Mobile and all the other big petrochemical interests, or Israel and Saudia Arabia Which specific policies have in anyway contribute to the benefits of anyone that isn tin the 1% bracket ?.
    Small farmers are being screwed over big time, and they are realizing that now, with the Bayer Monsanto merger, the rolling back of small farmers protections in favor of big business, the environmental catastrophe waiting to happen, poisoned water and soil.

    Oh lets look at the coal jobs and oil jobs, considering that he has asked SA to increase their oil supply, whose interest is he favoring? Certainly not USA's workers I don t see those jobs materializing very soon and not on the scale he promised,so whose bidding he is following?
    More and more people in the USa are realizing they have been played big time and that that it s business as usual but on a larger scale,even more so than before as previous safety nets and safeguards have been removed, together with human decency, dignity and respect.
    So he s getting what he sowed,
    and don t even get me going about the all NATO busllshit, no one is asking the USA to spen that much money, money it s using to defend it self by the way, the only people happy about that expenditure are the the big arm contractors, personally I would call his bluff and tell him to feck off and all its army bases and personnel, let s see how it goes

    oh look something shining over there:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
  13. Jackov Altraids

    Absolutely, couldn't put it better myself.
    So why protest?
    I'm sure it would be easy to come up with a list for every politician that has ever visited.
    You could also come up with a list to protest outside of your own MP's house, but although this might actually be useful, it doesn't have the appeal of being part of the moral superior group.
    What are the protesters asking for, the USA to have another vote?
    The worst thing is, when I see these well meaning idiots protesting, I find myself defending Trump.
  14. Tigger

    Tigger Member

    Not at all like any of our politicians then, obviously...
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  15. RobFZS

    RobFZS Member

    Everyone knows Trumps a tit, but i do hope the global media dont pay too much attention to these protesters, they look like the usual imbeciles that come out for anti austerity marches with brain dead placards, it pulls us down to a very low level of intelligent debate.
  16. dstudent

    dstudent Member

    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

    First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Socialist.

    Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

    He is appealing and using the worst of human nature, as a way to further special interests groups's interests. He s tapping in to something that fought war against, as civilized nations I tthoguth we were supposed to go forward not backwards.
  17. RobFZS

    RobFZS Member

    Your lot do nothing but speak out, Romney was a Nazi according to the dems, now Trump is, when the real danger appears, all your cards will have been used up.
  18. Tigger

    Tigger Member

    Which begs the question why we have imported other culture's religious laws and various barbaric practices, allowed the systematic abuse of thousands of children on our watch, as well as allowing ourselves to be dictated to by unelected bureaucrats of other countries, all things which must be making WW1 and WW2 soldiers turn in their graves. But that's all much less important than protesting against a democratically elected President of an ally country. :rolleyes:
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  19. Exfarmer

    Exfarmer Member

    Bury St Edmunds
    The picture shows the sheer paucity of their argument, it is pathetic and I am embarassed by such images to say that I too disagree with Trump.
    These infantile creatures should go back to school and read up on some good arguments against him.
    There are several posted in this thread.
    However before even thinking about protesting against the president of one of our greatest allies they should look at all the diabolical people out there in the world.
    Greatest racist? How about going to Burma, they would find true racism there.
    How about going to Turkey , that nice man Mr Erdogan has just removed 18,000 people from their jobs for not preaching his policies, many possibly hundreds of thousands are languishing in his jails for similar reasons and not a peep from the protestors when he was here.
    Did they get out of bed when the nice Mr Xi came calling?

    They are all true hypocrites and few understand his policies and why he appeals to so many Americans
  20. Canada Farmer

    Canada Farmer Member

    Not to be sexist but a slight alteration so Mrs Clinton doesn't feel left out....:rolleyes:

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