Forestry Commission wrong to plant trees on peat bogs. Channel 4

[curlietailz]

Forestry Commission admits it was wrong to allow trees to be planted on peat bogs

Our chief correspondent Alex Thomson has been investigating how the Forestry Commission used taxpayer money to plant trees on the UK's equivalent of the Amazon rainforest.

www.channel4.com

 

[primmiemoo]

I was at a meeting where someone from the FC said they would never have planted conifers on Culm Grassland if it had been founded in the late C20th.

As an organisation, it was needed to supply pit props, etc, a hundred years ago. The founders did the right thing at the time, but can it really be needed now?

 

[Tarw Coch]

I was at a meeting where someone from the FC said they would never have planted conifers on Culm Grassland if it had been founded in the late C20th.

As an organisation, it was needed to supply pit props, etc, a hundred years ago. The founders did the right thing at the time, but can it really be needed now?

Dunno, where else are they going to get the fuel for all these government subsidised bio mass boilers

 

[Dave6170]

They put windfarms on peat bogs is that ok then?

 

[toquark]

Strange one this, clearly the FC has dropped the ball. The no planting on deep (over 50cm) peat is well established and known throughout the industry. Whoever planted it should have known better and the local FC case officer certainly should have done.

 

[primmiemoo]

Dunno, where else are they going to get the fuel for all these government subsidised bio mass boilers

Far better idea is to develop hydrogen powered boilers. If Porsche is putting money into hydrogen cell vehicles, there must be potential in other sectors. Had an interesting chat with the engineer who services the domestic heating here. He's been anti the biomass burning idea since the first stately homes had them installed, because he's good at maths, and can see the flaws in reliance on burning trees - even homegrown ones.

 

[Y Fan Wen]

Hindsight is a wonderful thing!

 

[renewablejohn]

Far better idea is to develop hydrogen powered boilers. If Porsche is putting money into hydrogen cell vehicles, there must be potential in other sectors. Had an interesting chat with the engineer who services the domestic heating here. He's been anti the biomass burning idea since the first stately homes had them installed, because he's good at maths, and can see the flaws in reliance on burning trees - even homegrown ones.

Nothing wrong in burning trees. Some of us make a living out of it and do it in a sustainable manner.

 

[deleted user 837354]

Far better idea is to develop hydrogen powered boilers. If Porsche is putting money into hydrogen cell vehicles, there must be potential in other sectors. Had an interesting chat with the engineer who services the domestic heating here. He's been anti the biomass burning idea since the first stately homes had them installed, because he's good at maths, and can see the flaws in reliance on burning trees - even homegrown ones.

Generate hydrogen from where and then use it to burn for heat? Utter insanity.

 

[Sid]

I was at a meeting where someone from the FC said they would never have planted conifers on Culm Grassland if it had been founded in the late C20th.

As an organisation, it was needed to supply pit props, etc, a hundred years ago. The founders did the right thing at the time, but can it really be needed now?

Various parcels of land have been cleared under CSS and returned to culm grassland locally.
Mum said she could remember on such place which was open land riding across it with the TSH, was planted with conifers and now cleared again.
What's goes around comes around

 

[Hilly]

I was at a meeting where someone from the FC said they would never have planted conifers on Culm Grassland if it had been founded in the late C20th.

As an organisation, it was needed to supply pit props, etc, a hundred years ago. The founders did the right thing at the time, but can it really be needed now?

I wouldn’t want to be down a pit propped up with the sh!t timber forestry commission produce these days that’s for sure .

 

[Hilly]

Dunno, where else are they going to get the fuel for all these government subsidised bio mass boilers

Just burn all the fuel in the power station all the machines need to get it their , simple .

 

[Hilly]

Build nuclear power stations and give the electric away exceptionally cheap build a real economy and it’s as green as it comes .

 

[primmiemoo]

Generate hydrogen from where and then use it to burn for heat? Utter insanity.

Takes excess generation from renewables to split out the hydrogen and compress it. That's as far as school General Science got me, so I do know I'm only an interested pleb in this matter

 

[primmiemoo]

Nothing wrong in burning trees. Some of us make a living out of it and do it in a sustainable manner.

Of course. But the biomass boilers tend to be fuelled from wood from other sources. I burn wood from hedgerow maintenance. It's sustainable, too.

 

[deere 6600]

Of course. But the biomass boilers tend to be fuelled from wood from other sources. I burn wood from hedgerow maintenance. It's sustainable, too.

Let's face it up here in central scotland if the sub goes and stock price doesn't rise even more than it has there will be plenty of ground for trees cause it does ny. Pay to farm it

 

[Dave6170]

Build nuclear power stations and give the electric away exceptionally cheap build a real economy and it’s as green as it comes .

There was word that rolls Royce wanted to build a small reactors around the country. Sounds food to me

 

[Hilly]

There was word that rolls Royce wanted to build a small reactors around the country. Sounds food to me

I heard that also , sound great idea to me this burning trees is mental the government have been good winked with that imo.

 

[Werzle]

Forestry Commission admits it was wrong to allow trees to be planted on peat bogs

Our chief correspondent Alex Thomson has been investigating how the Forestry Commission used taxpayer money to plant trees on the UK's equivalent of the Amazon rainforest.

www.channel4.com

Just goes to show that there are people with the top jobs who havent a clue what they are doing, they pocket wages for complete failure. The same goes for people within the EA , NE, Wildlife trusts, IDB's etc etc and all of them think they can lecture and police landowners and farmers .

 

[deleted user 837354]

Takes excess generation from renewables to split out the hydrogen and compress it. That's as far as school General Science got me, so I do know I'm only an interested pleb in this matter

What 'excess generation'?

So you are saying use electricity to split hydrogen from water, compress it or send it down a pipeline and then burn it to make heat for heating? Is this correct?

You must realise there are so many steps in that process it will be highly inefficient in energy terms?