fork lift test 5 days !

MrNoo

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Arable Farmer
Location
Cirencester
Trouble is not that many fail……. See anything that stands out here…….. and most killed are over 60……. But yes making sure people are lucky rather than well trained is the answer 😞
Just because I don’t have a clipboard carrying nobody telling me what to do for a day to get a ticket doesn’t mean I’m not we’ll trained does it?
I’m glad I’ll soon be out of this industry, seemingly being governed more and more by super fun at parties clipboard types who always know best.
 

Nearly

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Location
North of York
Book a local trainer for a course. Did it in a day 15 years ago, I was first man tested and away too. :)
Haven't driven a Merlo since.
 
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DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
When using machinery, isn’t at least 60% of it being familiar with the particular make and model used for the task. I went on the telegandler course a while back. I hadn’t a clue what I was doing with the unfamiliar controls of a new JCB compared to my old Sanderson so I ran over a few barrels. I passed in the end but you’d be a fool to let me loose on your brand new telehandler / sprayer / tractor without giving me a couple of hours product familiarisation and training.
Most of these courses state the generic obvious but are no use at all to a new starter going onto a workplace for the first time. If grandad hasn’t shown you the ropes, you are on a very steep and dangerous learning curve if all you have is the telehandler certificate.
 

DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
It’s the same with PA1 and PA2. It’s useful but didn’t help me at all when I had to use a Berthoud instead of my Bateman. You just hope that when employers take people on they realise this but from what I’ve seen they don’t.
 

DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
When I did the test the instructor said he didn’t drive as you do on the test in own yard as it would be much too slow to load a lorry etc.
Does anybody drive up to the side of the wagon, put the handbrake on, then start raising the bucket? It’s a poor technique in my view, not least because you won’t be able to get as close to the lorry as you could because you need to leave a bigger gap to allow for the boom arc as the boom rises. Drive up carefully with the bucket going over the side and you can get really close so you don’t have to boom out as much to tip in the middle. Add in a low doorway between the heap and the lorry and my technique isn’t really anything like the test technique. I have marks on the side window so I know the point at which the boom is just low enough to get under the door and another mark to show max boom height to crowd the bucket without tipping half a tonne of beet back over my cab. It’s all about studying and optimising the job in a safe and efficient manner, minimising unnecessary running about, steering and tyre wear.
 
When I did a test the chap said put manitou in gear then release handbrake might be a good idea .but machine wouldn't drive if you do that

Lots of machines have an interlock and won't move an inch unless the handbrake is off. How the fudge do you edge up to the side of a lorry if you can't move with the boom moving? Surely you need to lift the boom up and move closer to the wagon to put the bucket over the side as the headstock and attachment move in an arc and you will thus be miles away from the truck if you have to start at ground level?
 

Robt

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Location
Suffolk
Which course requires that? I've done two telehandler training schemes and neither required me to do that?
Which courses have you done? Rough terrain, counter balance ones I’ve done you must use handbrake as implied in the earlier posts. Did you pass your course?
 

Robt

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Location
Suffolk
Lots of machines have an interlock and won't move an inch unless the handbrake is off. How the fudge do you edge up to the side of a lorry if you can't move with the boom moving? Surely you need to lift the boom up and move closer to the wagon to put the bucket over the side as the headstock and attachment move in an arc and you will thus be miles away from the truck if you have to start at ground level?
No you merely drive up to side of lorry. Engage handbrake. Lift up boom to required height. Release handbrake and drive forward 1-2 m. Then apply handbrake and then operate boom. The idea is you don’t operate the hydraulics while moving. It sort of makes sense. In reality we don’t drive like that. Similar to very few of any of us drive like we do to pass our driving test for a car everyday
 
No you merely drive up to side of lorry. Engage handbrake. Lift up boom to required height. Release handbrake and drive forward 1-2 m. Then apply handbrake and then operate boom. The idea is you don’t operate the hydraulics while moving. It sort of makes sense. In reality we don’t drive like that. Similar to very few of any of us drive like we do to pass our driving test for a car everyday
How are you supposed to tease out a 4 metre wide front fork of chopped grass on a clamp ?
 

Boomerang

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You can hire a 50t excavator and it’ll be dropped in your yard no questions asked about training or competency.

All the hire company is interested in is whether you can insure their property. If it’s insured, you can hire pretty much anything. You can buy the relevant 2/3/4 weekly/monthly insurance online with a credit card.

Training and certification is up to individual businesses, same with how the implementation of that is handled. I’m sure there’ll be plenty operations under the radar, and as long as nothing goes wrong they’ll get away with it. That goes for agriculture and non agricultural.
Think you can hire a cherry picker ,no ticket required, surely they are easy to abuse if you don't know what you are doing.
 

Boomerang

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Forklift test ended up being 2/3 of a day , no one failed, instructor said he rarely failed anyone .
2 hours classroom ,20 minutes each practice, 15 min practical test, 15mins theory test. Done.
Farcical box ticking at its best
 

Boomerang

Member
It’s the same with PA1 and PA2. It’s useful but didn’t help me at all when I had to use a Berthoud instead of my Bateman. You just hope that when employers take people on they realise this but from what I’ve seen they don’t.
Agree , pa2 irrespective of the machine you take your test on allows you to use 12m bethoud or a 48m agrifac, don't think you'd go from the little bethoud to the agrifac without some swotting up.
 

Bobthebuilder

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Mixed Farmer
Location
northumberland
When I did a test the chap said put manitou in gear then release handbrake might be a good idea .but machine wouldn't drive if you do that
Our old jd3400 was like that when I did the course and told the instructor his way was wrong as machine wouldn’t do it like that, new jcb is the same handbrake has to be off before engaging shuttle
 

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