France get £62.7 million

Foxcover

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You appear to be about the age of my kids so obviously didn’t live or see the England i was brought up in, which I loved👍
The down side of that is, is that 21 century England for myself at least, is soooooo......

DISAPPOINTING 😕

Good job you don’t live here then! I’m fairly happy with my lot thanks :)
If the ‘England you were dragged up in’ was full of people like you then I don’t want it thanks.
 

Muck Spreader

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DrWazzock

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When I lived in Paris in the late ‘90’s I would use CDG airport to make visits home. On one return fight however we were diverted to Orly on a Sunday evening where I witnessed French security forces of some sort herding immigrants onto “repatriation” flights. They were batoning people who stepped out of line. It is absolutely no surprise that immigrants try their hardest to get to the U.K. if the institutional racism is still as bad in France today as what I saw in the 1990’s. The gendarmes would set their dogs on immigrants on the Metro and take them away off they didn’t have papers. A much harsher regime by far than anything in the U.K. And we wonder why they risk drowning to get here. It’s absolutely no surprise at all if you’ve seen what goes on in France.
 

DrWazzock

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It strikes me as incredibly naive to trust the French to do anything to keep immigrants on their own turf. They must be laughing into their baguettes that we are paying them to keep immigrants there. I expect their approach is half hearted at best, probably completely belligerent at worst.
 

le bon paysan

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Limousin, France
When I lived in Paris in the late ‘90’s I would use CDG airport to make visits home. On one return fight however we were diverted to Orly on a Sunday evening where I witnessed French security forces of some sort herding immigrants onto “repatriation” flights. They were batoning people who stepped out of line. It is absolutely no surprise that immigrants try their hardest to get to the U.K. if the institutional racism is still as bad in France today as what I saw in the 1990’s. The gendarmes would set their dogs on immigrants on the Metro and take them away off they didn’t have papers. A much harsher regime by far than anything in the U.K. And we wonder why they risk drowning to get here. It’s absolutely no surprise at all if you’ve seen what goes on in France.
Relax
Priti' s got it covered...
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Foxcover

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When I lived in Paris in the late ‘90’s I would use CDG airport to make visits home. On one return fight however we were diverted to Orly on a Sunday evening where I witnessed French security forces of some sort herding immigrants onto “repatriation” flights. They were batoning people who stepped out of line. It is absolutely no surprise that immigrants try their hardest to get to the U.K. if the institutional racism is still as bad in France today as what I saw in the 1990’s. The gendarmes would set their dogs on immigrants on the Metro and take them away off they didn’t have papers. A much harsher regime by far than anything in the U.K. And we wonder why they risk drowning to get here. It’s absolutely no surprise at all if you’ve seen what goes on in France.

It’s not worth your breath Dr, you give a candid and shocking reflection of how they treat immigrants in France and all you get is a sarcastic news bite in return.
That’s what you’re dealing with unfortunately, I’ll be ignoring the politics section from now on, there’s 3 really bitter trolls with huge chips on their shoulders on the prowl.
 

DrWazzock

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Lincolnshire
It’s not worth your breath Dr, you give a candid and shocking reflection of how they treat immigrants in France and all you get is a sarcastic news bite in return.
That’s what you’re dealing with unfortunately, I’ll be ignoring the politics section from now on, there’s 3 really bitter trolls with huge chips on their shoulders on the prowl.
Some on here have “gone native” and their new foreign masters can do no wrong in their eyes. I find it ironic that they criticise the UK for being racist or intolerant when all I ever found on the continent was racism far worse than anything in the U.K. I remember queuing for hours myself in the Bureau d’Estranger fortunately for me in the UE queue. I watched the French civil service treat immigrants with outright contempt refusing to speak anything but rapid French and doing absolutely nothing to help the poor souls who had finally reached the front of the queue after half a day waiting then to be turned away with no progress whatsoever. It was a Fascist country au fond as far as I could see. Contrast that to the multilingual signs and assistance you will find in the U.K.
Take no notice of those who criticise the U.K. It’s the most tolerant multicultural country in the world without equal globally.
 

DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
It works both ways though. Go to the UAE and other places in the Middle East and the British get preferential treatment while those continentals get sent to the back of the queue, something that wasn’t lost on me when I travelled with Germans through the Middle East on business. Whatever some might prefer to belief, British influence extended further and wider than any European influence in days of empire and mutual respect with old commonwealth allies endures. Never had a cross word on entering any of our old colonies or parts of former empire. Smiles and gladness all round.
 

le bon paysan

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin, France
It’s not worth your breath Dr, you give a candid and shocking reflection of how they treat immigrants in France and all you get is a sarcastic news bite in return.
That’s what you’re dealing with unfortunately, I’ll be ignoring the politics section from now on, there’s 3 really bitter trolls with huge chips on their shoulders on the prowl.
20 something years ago.
Clearly appreciate those who play their part.
Again as you seem to have missed this...
 

Foxcover

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20 something years ago.
Clearly appreciate those who play their part.
Again as you seem to have missed this...

It’s in French mate, I can’t read it.
I studied German and Spanish when I was a youngster with my satnav, Far more useful languages.
 

DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
It’s in French mate, I can’t read it.
I studied German and Spanish when I was a youngster with my satnav, Far more useful languages.
That’s another French delusion. English is spoken just about everywhere but the French have never come to terms with this reality. So a bit like the Welsh they will try to make it as difficult as possible for anybody who isn’t in their insular little clique. But in doing so they only make it more difficult for themselves to interact in the global economy. Never mind though. Let them get on with it.
 

Muck Spreader

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Limousin
My old French colleagues would always mention one thing about the British. “ Fair play”. Something which is sadly lacking on the continent, even by their own admission.
Another myth mostly perpetuated by our amateurish sporting performance through most of the 20th century compared to those dastardly cheating foreigners and colonials. 😁
 

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