Free biosolids available north of England

DRC

Member
I’ve noticed that my neighbours that usually have it stockpiled, don’t have any this year. Is there a supply issue. We were one of the first to have it around here, many years ago, when you provided a spreading service as well.
 

DRC

Member
No supply issue, could possibly just be a decision to no longer use it or the soil sampling hasn’t allowed biosolids to be spread or stockpiled on that area. We are producing over 1000 ton a day out of sites across the NW
Yes, it can soon put your phosphate up to 4 and 5s
 
I’ve noticed that my neighbours that usually have it stockpiled, don’t have any this year. Is there a supply issue. We were one of the first to have it around here, many years ago, when you provided a spreading service as well.

Had some this spring, in two hits. They were mighty swift with delivery. Stopped burning it and increasing legislation about using it with roots and veg reducing potential land bank.

Apparently United Ultilies have the highest population to 'smallest' land bank available to them out of all the water companies. If that makes sense.
 

BAC

Member
Had some this spring, in two hits. They were mighty swift with delivery. Stopped burning it and increasing legislation about using it with roots and veg reducing potential land bank.

Apparently United Ultilies have the highest population to 'smallest' land bank available to them out of all the water companies. If that makes sense.

You are very much correct there
 

DRC

Member
Had some this spring, in two hits. They were mighty swift with delivery. Stopped burning it and increasing legislation about using it with roots and veg reducing potential land bank.

Apparently United Ultilies have the highest population to 'smallest' land bank available to them out of all the water companies. If that makes sense.
That’s good. I used to only be able to get it during the winter.
 

tw15

Member
Location
DORSET
Really farmers should be paid to take their waste the nutrient content is a bonus . At the end of the day its their waste and we pay to get rid of our waste . If every farmer that uses bio solids stood up and said no we are not paying for it and a std price set for them to deliver and spread .
Trying to get farmers to stand together would be the big stumbling block .
Around here it costs 4-5 ton I think @18 ton maintenance dressing 80-90 ha most would like it if they got paid that per ha surely . Tin hat on ,
 

Goweresque

Member
Location
North Wilts
Really farmers should be paid to take their waste the nutrient content is a bonus . At the end of the day its their waste and we pay to get rid of our waste . If every farmer that uses bio solids stood up and said no we are not paying for it and a std price set for them to deliver and spread .
Trying to get farmers to stand together would be the big stumbling block .
Around here it costs 4-5 ton I think @18 ton maintenance dressing 80-90 ha most would like it if they got paid that per ha surely . Tin hat on ,

Precisely. United Utilities make over £600m in profit every year. How much would that be if they had to pay the true cost of disposing of their waste, instead of palming it off on short sighted farmers? The Water Industry makes profits of £4-5bn per year nationally - thats profits after all the fat cat directors have had their multi-million pound salaries out too. Why are farmers prepared to beggar themselves and their neighbours in search of a few short term pennies, and bend over backwards to increase the profits of massive corporations, when a collective stance would reap far greater long term rewards? All farmers should tell the utility companies to stick their biosolids back where the sun doesn't shine until they pay a proper price to dispose of it, one that compensates the farmer for the long term risks they are taking by spreading the stuff on their land.

'Ooohh Mr Multi-Billion Pound Corporation, of course I'll pay to take your waste that would cost you a fortune to get rid anywhere else, its got 27 pence worth of nutrients in it. Don't worry about the heavy metals or micro-plastics, I'm sure no-one will ever notice them!'
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
Really farmers should be paid to take their waste the nutrient content is a bonus . At the end of the day its their waste and we pay to get rid of our waste . If every farmer that uses bio solids stood up and said no we are not paying for it and a std price set for them to deliver and spread .
Trying to get farmers to stand together would be the big stumbling block .
Around here it costs 4-5 ton I think @18 ton maintenance dressing 80-90 ha most would like it if they got paid that per ha surely . Tin hat on ,

Around here there is more demand than supply, hence Wessex Water charging for it. I don't know what Nutri-Bio charge for it in East Anglia where demand is much higher nor Thames where they have 12 million producers and a smaller land mass than United.

Wessex charge me £4/t delivered & spread for a N and P value of £10.55/t. My profit is the fertiliser value, trace elements and the organic matter. The down side is compaction, lost crop area from the heaps, PTEs and microplastics. I'm happy to take those risks.
 

Nearly

Member
Location
North of York
Around here there is more demand than supply, hence Wessex Water charging for it. I don't know what Nutri-Bio charge for it in East Anglia where demand is much higher nor Thames where they have 12 million producers and a smaller land mass than United.

Wessex charge me £4/t delivered & spread for a N and P value of £10.55/t. My profit is the fertiliser value, trace elements and the organic matter. The down side is compaction, lost crop area from the heaps, PTEs and microplastics. I'm happy to take those risks.
.....at the moment.
 

DRC

Member
I was happier to take it when they had a decent spreading team of professional contractors that took the job seriously .
Then they had a few years of the cheapest one man bands they could get. I came home once to see great thick rows where only one rotor had been working on a spreader . The lad was being paid a pittance and thought he’d just get on with it. Then they stopped paying for spreading, so I decided it wasn’t really worth continuing, especially as we always seemed to have to have it during the winter months with the mess that backing lorries in fields made.
Thinking about it, I think your right. They should be paying us to take it.
 

tw15

Member
Location
DORSET
Around here there is more demand than supply, hence Wessex Water charging for it. I don't know what Nutri-Bio charge for it in East Anglia where demand is much higher nor Thames where they have 12 million producers and a smaller land mass than United.

Wessex charge me £4/t delivered & spread for a N and P value of £10.55/t. My profit is the fertiliser value, trace elements and the organic matter. The down side is compaction, lost crop area from the heaps, PTEs and microplastics. I'm happy to take those risks.
Be even better if the bio solids was followed with a bacs payment instead of a bill wont it .:) .
 

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