Yes but won’t direct drilling sugar beet and encouraging beneficials save us all in the end?
French to use neonics in sugar beet seed.
- Thread starter Farmer1001
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The ban was about killing bees?
beardface
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Because eustice is goves understudy....
I know .
but who initiated it ?
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the bees
ollie989898
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It's only a matter of time before neonics fall on their faces anyway.
Farmer1001
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It was put to a member vote in 2018 and needed a majority to enable the ban, sixteen countries, including the United Kingdom, France, and Germany, voted to ban, Romania, Denmark, and three other countries opposed the ban, and 13 countries abstained. Since then its been possible to obtain an "emergency" derogation and the individual countries can apply, its unlikely these will be allowed after this year. As the UK voted strongly to ban them, the use of the derogation is unlikely. Ultimately the members instigated the ban, the UK could have abstained or voted against but voted to ban them.
Thanks for a sensible answer .
I don’t grow sugar so asking from a point of view of ignorance. Neonicotinoids were invented in the 1980s. What did the sugar industry use before?
Trigger Happy
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I have had an e mail from British Sugar today saying return your contract by 5 pm Friday for next years crop or you are basically out. My beet looks terrible, 80% virus infection, not lifting any until next month so no idea on yield and sugar content. I have no intention of being bullied into signing, i want to see how this years crop performs. Is that so unreasonable? 
British Sugar.
British Sugar.
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Pyrethroids, back them they still worked
two-cylinder
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- Cambridge
The stance taken by the UK government is the definition of 'take back control'.
Sadly too many people in our industry supported that policy.
Sadly too many people in our industry supported that policy.
Right-arm fast
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Exactly what I was going to say, and now we are probably going to import sugar grown using chemistry we voted to get rid of because of environmental issues/reasons. Its astounding to say the least, talk about shooting yourself in the foot.
Hindsight
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I have had an e mail from British Sugar today saying return your contract by 5 pm Friday for next years crop or you are basically out. My beet looks terrible, 80% virus infection, not lifting any until next month so no idea on yield and sugar content. I have no intention of being bullied into signing, i want to see how this years crop performs. Is that so unreasonable?
Well Nick Morris did say it was a gentle reminder. I assumed it was a laugh! I asked my local fieldsman the response so far, but he was somewhat evasive. I know a few with one year contracts doing same as you, waiting a while to see how it looks and then take a view. Doubt most of them would really miss beet. Might actually make an odd soul finally decide to dump the old girlfriend. She has lost her attraction!
Hindsight
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Do I cry or laugh. I presume that comment was said in jest??
I don’t understand. If we were in the EU we wouldn’t have them back either
Breakthru
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Brexit may bring about a different viewpoint. It cannot be blamed as usual on the EU for better or worse. Gang up on you local MP's and tell them you will run against them and split the vote. Gravy train killer which will get attention.
Secondly its not exactly a large product so get in a van and go and bring back French/Polish seed. I know the contracts but buy it and just return it later as unused, bet it disappears with nobody noticing. Computers count by 1's and zeros so are just fast idiots. You just need to outflank the system.
Secondly its not exactly a large product so get in a van and go and bring back French/Polish seed. I know the contracts but buy it and just return it later as unused, bet it disappears with nobody noticing. Computers count by 1's and zeros so are just fast idiots. You just need to outflank the system.
Hindsight
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I do wonder about at times. But TFF is a broad church and the anonymity means I have no idea whether I am sat next to a pauper, a Lord or President Putin, but will say you provide entertainment with your posts.
Split the vote and fetch and grow Polish beet seed - you for real, like as my daughter would say, eyebrow cocked.