Front Loader Tractor

[LadUpTheRoad]

Hello,

Ive a NewHolland 8360 & McCormick MTX 140 but im torn between which one to get a front loader installed onto. personally Im leaning more towards the McCormick as it has nicer controls, front suspension and better steering lock.
The only concern was in regards to the front suspension, would the loader put to much pressure on it or do I put it on the NH that doesn't have front suspension. or on the other hand would be be stupid not to put on a tractor with front suspension to make it more comfortable when handling the loader?

Try help me decide, I want to hear your opinions.

Thanks.

 

[jd6420s]

I have a 6330 without front suspension but has soft ride fitted to the loader. It acts like It has front suspension with that on.

 

[Welderloon]

I'd rather have front suspension on a loader tractor than not - even with soft ride, loading bales in fields has confirmed this for me down the years.
McCormick - decent loader & she'll be grand
Sometimes they need weight on the back though.

 

[balerman]

MTX 140 would make a very good loader tractor.

 

[daveydiesel1]

If your 8360 is range command id put it on the mccormick as the shuttle and lack of reverse gears in the nh wouldnt be great

 

[glasshouse]

Hello,

Ive a NewHolland 8360 & McCormick MTX 140 but im torn between which one to get a front loader installed onto. personally Im leaning more towards the McCormick as it has nicer controls, front suspension and better steering lock.
The only concern was in regards to the front suspension, would the loader put to much pressure on it or do I put it on the NH that doesn't have front suspension. or on the other hand would be be stupid not to put on a tractor with front suspension to make it more comfortable when handling the loader?

Try help me decide, I want to hear your opinions.

Thanks.

U want a malleux mx 120?

 

[LadUpTheRoad]

If your 8360 is range command id put it on the mccormick as the shuttle and lack of reverse gears in the nh wouldnt be great

Yeah shes the range command. lots of pressing up and down gears Ill admit

 

[daveydiesel1]

Yeah shes the range command. lots of pressing up and down gears Ill admit

The problem is slow reverse speeds and not a true powershuttle

 

[glasshouse]

The problem is slow reverse speeds and not a true powershuttle

How is it not a powershuttle?

 

[daveydiesel1]

How is it not a powershuttle?

Its not a smooth change requireing the clutch whereas at slow speed the mccormick can be changed on the move

 

[glasshouse]

Its not a smooth change requireing the clutch whereas at slow speed the mccormick can be changed on the move

Nh range command doesnt need clutch to reverse

 

[daveydiesel1]

Nh range command doesnt need clutch to reverse

Yes It doesnt, but if you dont want whiplash its best to use it

 

[glasshouse]

Yes It doesnt, but if you dont want whiplash its best to use it

Cant say i have ever noticed that

 

[e3120]

How is it not a powershuttle?

It has to do a mechanical 'range' change, which to my mind doesn't make it a powershuttle, where only clutch packs are needed, like a powershift. Power command might qualify, but still not as slick as a dyna 6, with dedicated F/R packs.

When under pressure buckraking with a TM, you'd get the odd slow direction shift that wasn't comfortable when your body was expecting otherwise. It seemed to be always when you were in a tricky spot.

 

[Boohoo]

As far as I know range command has a synchro for reverse, like it has for the change from A to B and B to C, hence the delay in getting reverse, even when you're already in B range.
A true power shuttle uses clutch packs not synchros.

 

[Mur Huwcun]

As far as I know range command has a synchro for reverse, like it has for the change from A to B and B to C, hence the delay in getting reverse, even when you're already in B range.
A true power shuttle uses clutch packs not synchros.

It actually has a hydraulic cylinder robotically moving a selector fork for a sychro hub, as you say not a powershuttle plus it will only reverse in B range!!! So if you’re in C1 and change into reverse it’s mechanically moving the synchro from forward to reverse and downshifting the range from C to B everytime you change direction

 

[balerman]

It actually has a hydraulic cylinder robotically moving a selector fork for a sychro hub, as you say not a powershuttle plus it will only reverse in B range!!! So if you’re in C1 and change into reverse it’s mechanically moving the synchro from forward to reverse and downshifting the range from C to B everytime you change direction

I think the SLE or electro shift is the same,got to go to the newer Dynamic command for a true power shuttle or power command.

 

[daveydiesel1]

I think the SLE or electro shift is the same,got to go to the newer Dynamic command for a true power shuttle or power command.

Its still smoother than the range command as its a straight shift and same speed

 

[Mur Huwcun]

I think the SLE or electro shift is the same,got to go to the newer Dynamic command for a true power shuttle or power command.

Yes, both have survived the test of time though! It’s an achievement to fid a TM or 40 series or TS under 10k hrs anywhere now!!!

 

[Lakesdigger]

Its still smoother than the range command as its a straight shift and same speed

Sometimes it is, depends on it's mood and which gear you're in when going between f+r and god forbid you set it up for a different gear in f+r