Frustration that we cant buy a farm...

[nxy]

I moved over to france almost 14 years ago. I can honestly say I was welcomed 100% by just about every french person I had dealings with. Within a couple of years of arriving I was asked to go on the local council and have since been re-elected. The only culture shock I can recall was the realization that I had been putting up with some much misery in the UK.

The french and just "life" over here seem to be the bit that people are worried about and that for me, at least, are the two best bits about being here. I hate going back to the UK, I hate the hassle, the lack of trust, the locking every thing up, the lack of parking, the crap roads and just too many people. I have been back 8 times in 14 years and never for more than 5 days and not for the last two years. I miss the beer and decent cheddar and bacon and that is about it.

I have never been to america but I am amazed that farmers (of all people) would think that it would be less difficult to set up on another continent than on a bit of land seperated from england by 20 miles of sea.

 

[Ali]

State and Canada without doubt, probably Canada.
France I would rather stick pins in my eyes. Sorry, worked there, spent time there and have to work with them. No thank you.

 

[multi power]

State and Canada without doubt, probably Canada.
France I would rather stick pins in my eyes. Sorry, worked there, spent time there and have to work with them. No thank you.

from what i have seen of it n reasearch i have done i think canada would be a great place to live n farm BUT im very unsure about the winters

 

[furrowedbrow]

from what i have seen of it n reasearch i have done i think canada would be a great place to live n farm BUT im very unsure about the winters

Check out the suicide rate.

 

[Andrew1983]

I like the idea of moving somewhere where land is cheap and weather is more predictable but I'd need to uproot a hell of a lot of family and friends!

Really like the USA from the couple times iv been, seems like they value farmers more than Brits public does. The distance from raw materials and markets I'd imagine has a lot to do with the value of land though.

 

[Davos]

from what i have seen of it n reasearch i have done i think canada would be a great place to live n farm BUT im very unsure about the winters

You would probably end up with cabin fever ,spending months snowed in, and temperatures about -40c and below.

 

[multi power]

You would probably end up with cabin fever ,spending months snowed in, and temperatures about -40c and below.

i good heated workshop would be a must but even so there is only so many workshop projects

 

[Ali]

Depends where you are. The plains area is roasting in the summer and f ing cold in winter. Nearer the coasts it s less extreme

 

[Walterp]

Depends where you are. The plains area is roasting in the summer and f ing cold in winter. Nearer the coasts it s less extreme

Vancouver regularly gets voted 'nicest city in the World in which to live'...

Although Sidney always comes close.

 

[Walterp]

Have you ever spent much time in the U.S. Walter..?

Your comments are way out of line with friends who have moved over, green card once issued only needs renewing every ten years and apply for citizenship after five yrs, health care affordable and high quality care in modern facilities (no waiting) culture shock....hmm would that be for you or us.?

Sadly, I've never been, so my views are influenced by those people I know who have visited or worked there and returned.

I think that there was a time when buying a farm in the heartlands was a really, really good idea, with prices very reasonable and the CRP in full swing; Mr John Meek in Kansas was active in trying to sell US farms in the UK, with some success.

But that was a long time ago, and now it's pretty dear to start up, unless you fancy buying a dairy in S Dakota. In addition, I know that health care costs are high, and rising, whilst paying for college education can be a crippling burden on the middle classes in the USA. I'm not sure that Brits quite appreciate the differences between countries are, perhaps, greater than their shared experience.

That doesn't mean that I don't think that those emigrants who did buy a place in the US in those days didn't do the right thing - I'm sure they did. My impression, though, is that it's much tougher nowadays, for a variety of reasons (not least the Sterling/USD exchange rate).

I don't know how much the Green Card system put people off - my understanding is that, even in Canada, the authorities check up more than they used to, whilst in the US the big question used to be 'what happens when I retire?'. On the flip side, the US pension scheme appears, to us, to be more generous than the thruppence a week that UK pensioners can expect to receive.

 

[FonterraFarmer]

Although Sidney always comes close.

If Sidney comes close, start running...... oh Walter P means "Sydney"

 

[caveman]

A mate of mine has been going to Canada for years.
"Land and homesteads are so cheap over there. I can get 10 times the acerage for the same money as here and theres none of the crap and bullshite we have to put up with".
Me.
"Mate. It's only fekkin cheap because they can't sell it and nobody wants it. It's a one way ticket. Why would you want ten times the work at your age?".
He's just turned 60 and still farms on the south coast. Has some near as dammit, if not true, quater horses and gets to ride western style whenever he likes!

 

[multi power]

Vancouver regularly gets voted 'nicest city in the World in which to live'...

Although Sidney always comes close.

well i have been to vancouver n there are definetly far nicer citys in canada, calgary would be one of my favourites

 

[Roger Perry]

Walter, When you have a green card you have it forever (subject to renewal every 10 yrs) no one is going to revoke it unless you commit some terrorist act, so retirement is not a factor After being a green card holder for 5 years you then become eligible to apply to become a U.S. citizen thus holding dual nationality.

Hope this clarifies