Fss OSR

Zippy768

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Dorset/Wilts
Increased our future osr acerage after I'd sent our best seed to store. Left with seed that has cleavers in and was glyphosate-ed, will this be a problem?
 

There has been a huge rise in rejections for erucic acid in recent years. The crushes are taking up to 5% erucic acid at intake even though the contract states max. 2%. There is a possibility that they may have to lower their levels at intake to 2% as the Food safety organisations are pushing it to be max. 2% due to it being dangerous to human health.

Farm saved seed seems to be a huge contributor to the current problem. Rapeseed naturally wants to revert back to its natural high erucic levels, several generations of farm saving can result in erucic acid levels over 10% and a heap of rapeseed that could be worthless......
 

Brisel

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Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
Mine is getting tested. £39 for peace of mind is cheap for 73 ha of FSS when you consider the possibility of rejection after next harvest. It would also eliminate or confirm whether farm saved seed is the cause of erucic acid problems if lots more people did this - unsurprisingly, the trade are blaming this as one of the possible causes. Yes, that includes the seed trade, strangely enough ;)
 

Hindsight

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Location
Lincolnshire
Mine is getting tested. £39 for peace of mind is cheap for 73 ha of FSS when you consider the possibility of rejection after next harvest. It would also eliminate or confirm whether farm saved seed is the cause of erucic acid problems if lots more people did this - unsurprisingly, the trade are blaming this as one of the possible causes. Yes, that includes the seed trade, strangely enough ;)

What erucic acid level are you prepared to use as FSS and what will you do if yours fails that test at whatever level you are told is to high?

If yours passes this FSS test and then in 2019 the crop fails of erucic acid what will you do then? Any thoughts?
 

Brisel

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Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
What erucic acid level are you prepared to use as FSS and what will you do if yours fails that test at whatever level you are told is to high?

If yours passes this FSS test and then in 2019 the crop fails of erucic acid what will you do then? Any thoughts?

If it's over 2% I'll buy in certified to sow, and am tempted to send some of that away for testing too :shifty:. If it passes then fails after harvest I'll know it wasn't the seed stock at fault but volunteers and brassica weeds.
 

Lincsman

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
There has been a huge rise in rejections for erucic acid in recent years. The crushes are taking up to 5% erucic acid at intake even though the contract states max. 2%. There is a possibility that they may have to lower their levels at intake to 2% as the Food safety organisations are pushing it to be max. 2% due to it being dangerous to human health.

Farm saved seed seems to be a huge contributor to the current problem. Rapeseed naturally wants to revert back to its natural high erucic levels, several generations of farm saving can result in erucic acid levels over 10% and a heap of rapeseed that could be worthless......

I am certain FFS does not contribute... at least with conventional varieties... up until this crop i just mixed in 20% of new seed with "heap" seed, and grew it on, so in theory a small percentage would be a 15 years old strain, it was delivered 2 months ago to the mill with no claim. We now drill the first 2 acres "pure" to save from.
 

Lincsman

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Increased our future osr acerage after I'd sent our best seed to store. Left with seed that has cleavers in and was glyphosate-ed, will this be a problem?

You wouldnt normally roundup it, but this year i saw no evidence the crop took it in, a podsticked/roundup crop i contract harvested was 2% higher moisture than the untreated crop.
 
if you have never grown high erusic rape and pick a field with very little brassica weeds there will be little risk

testing that shows up high levels is very rare most rape if under 2 %
we had some a couple of years a go that was 3 to 5 % but the test was unreliable inaccurate then
I know a 3 % sample was checked on the longer more expensive but accurate test cam back at under 0.5%
the oil extracted was also tested at under .5 %

the problem for the food industry is the loads that are over 15 % due to previous high erusic rape volenteers
 

Premium Crops

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Cereals Exhibitor
Location
Hambledon
if you have never grown high erusic rape and pick a field with very little brassica weeds there will be little risk

testing that shows up high levels is very rare most rape if under 2 %
we had some a couple of years a go that was 3 to 5 % but the test was unreliable inaccurate then
I know a 3 % sample was checked on the longer more expensive but accurate test cam back at under 0.5%
the oil extracted was also tested at under .5 %

the problem for the food industry is the loads that are over 15 % due to previous high erusic rape volenteers

by way of clarification, the maximum level of erucic allowable in 00 oil is 5% and soon to drop to 2%, not 15%
 

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