A contractor spreads the muck, like everyone else in the area. As I said we have flexible part time labour for busy time’s. I tend to load lorries in harvest, the CS provides lorries.
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You always hear of plenty talking about a results based payment, however I cannot see how this will be implemented.
I personally will be very interested to see if the new scheme and transition really is revolutionary or will continue to reward the large landowners for land ownership.
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Perhaps there is an opportunity to cut your spreading
costs by joining forces with everyone else in the area
and running your own.
Possibly. But a very good contractor with 7 big self prop spreaders and 2 big traileds is 2 miles down the road and can cover big areas very quickly, we plan the program at the start of the season so we get timely planting of osr and cover crops.
he can bang out 200ha of chicken muck spreading in a day allowing me to get in those 200ha in 2 days with a 12m drill. The timelines of that is worth a lot more than saving a few quid HA on muck spreading.
You definitely get the feeling that the lofty early aspirations for ELMs are quietly being scaled back quite quickly.
Lots more passes and move thousands more tons of soil ,eg 7 passes to drill winter barley ,
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You always forget your poor mother in this speech. I do feel for her.
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Todays The Times front page story
Brexit will transform our fields and farms
Ministers pledge to ‘restore landscape’ by diverting subsidies
Ben Webster, Environment Editor
Monday November 30 2020, 12.01am, The Times
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Wildlife will thrive, air and water will be cleaner and livestock will be treated more humanely under the biggest change in farming policy for half a century, the government will promise today.
A seven-year plan to phase out paying subsidies to farmers based on how much land they own has been laid out as part of a post-Brexit overhaul of agriculture in England. Instead, farmers will receive money for improving productivity and the environment.
The present system of “direct payments” per hectare under the EU’s common agricultural policy will start to be reduced next year. By 2024 farmers will have lost at least half these payments and by 2028 the government aims to have ended them completely.
The National Farmers’ Union warned that the speed of the reduction in direct subsidies was “high risk” and some farms could become unviable, undermining domestic food production.
The agricultural transition plan, published today, says that ministers are aiming for all farmers by 2028 to be “running sustainable businesses that do not need to rely on public subsidy”.
The plan pledges to use the money farmers receive at present to “restore wilder landscapes” and achieve “enhanced beauty”. New farmers will be helped to start out, with land made available to them by offering lump-sum “exit payments” to existing farmers on condition that they leave the industry.
It will also confirm that the overall amount paid to farmers in England will stay at the present level of £2.4 billion a year until 2024, though they will have to earn it by producing “public goods”.
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Animal welfare payments will focus initially on eradicating endemic diseases in cattle, pigs and sheep. Farmers will also receive grants for measures to reduce animal suffering, such as rubber walkways to cut lameness in cattle and better holding pens to minimise stress.
A new welfare labelling scheme will be introduced to make it easier for shoppers to choose products from animals treated well, with a public consultation on proposals next year. A system of payment by results for improving animal welfare will be piloted in 2023.
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The existing subsidy that pays a farmer £233 per hectare will start to be reduced from next year, with £1 billion a year made available for the new environmental land management (ELM) scheme, which will be introduced by the end of 2024. The plan states: “We will pay for delivery of land management actions that contribute to clean air, clean and plentiful water, thriving plants and wildlife, reduction in and protection from environmental hazards, mitigation of and adaptation to climate change [and] enhanced beauty, heritage and engagement with the environment.”
Smaller landowners who receive £30,000 or less a year in direct payments will lose 5 per cent next year, rising to 50 per cent in 2024. Larger landowners will lose progressively more, with those who receive at least £150,000 losing 25 per cent next year and 70 per cent in 2024. The government will sweeten the pill by promising to stop issuing fines for what it deems minor breaches of rules.
The proportion of public funding spent on environmental and welfare improvements will rise from 23 per cent next year to 57 per cent in 2024. Nine per cent each year will incentivise improvements in productivity, such as investing in equipment and training.
In a foreword to the 66-page document laying out the plan, George Eustice, the environment secretary, described it as the “biggest change in agricultural policy in half a century”.
In a speech today to farmers and environmental groups, he will say: “Rather than the prescriptive, top-down rules of the EU era, we want to support the choices that farmers and land managers take. If we work together to get this right, then a decade from now the rest of the world will want to follow our lead.”
Minette Batters, president of the NFU, urged ministers to be “mindful of the impact [of] sudden drops in income”.
The government’s plans for the future of farming cover an ambitious collection of aims and promises but the look of many of the regulations and schemes has yet to be finalised (write Will Humphries and Ben Webster).
Included in the 66-page report are a number of plans which will alter the way we grow and rear our food for decades to come and hopefully in a sustainable way that will ensure farmers and nature can survive and flourish posy-Brexit. A new regulatory approach to be brought in from 2024 will have a clear distinction between the basic legal requirements farmers are obliged to meet by law, and land management scheme standards under which they are paid to go beyond this minimum.
A labelling scheme will make it easier for shoppers to choose products from animals treated well
DAN KITWOOD/GETTY IMAGES
New farmers in, old farmers out
Farmers who want to leave the industry will be able to apply from 2022 for a lump sum “exit payment” made up of the subsidies they would have received up to 2027. This will make more farms “available to those who want to start out on their own”, the plan says.
“They would need to meet relevant conditions, including leaving the sector,” the plan says. A “new entrants support scheme” is being developed and Defra plans to open it to applicants in 2022.
Animal welfare
The plan includes a pledge to “ensure every livestock farmer is improving the health and welfare of their animals”.
It says a “pathway” is being developed with the farming industry “to promote the production of healthier, higher-welfare animals at a level beyond compliance with current regulations”.
Payments will initially be focused on improving animal health by reducing disease, such as viral diarrhoea in cattle which costs the industry £35 million a year. Farmers will also be incentivised to make better use of antibiotics to reduce the risk of resistant superbugs.
Grants will be available for welfare improvements, including measures which “allow animals to show their natural behaviour”.
A payment-by-results scheme is being developed and Defra is conducting research to decide which which welfare enhancements will be incentivised.
Those under consideration include ending use of cages for hens and pig farrowing crates which severely restrict the movement of sows. Farmers could also be rewarded for not trimming the beaks of chicks and not cutting off the tails of pigs.
Health and disease support
This will initially focus on controlling or eradicating endemic diseases among cattle, pigs and sheep. A plan will be put in place to better understand antimicrobial-resistant diseases and the use of antibiotics in the food chain.
Air quality
Farmers will be required to cover all stores of slurry to prevent it evaporating and causing air pollution from fine particles. which are swept by winds to residential areas.
Grants will be available for farmers to invest in new slurry stores and low-emission spreading equipment to ensure fertiliser goes into the ground and not into the air.
Labelling
A new welfare labelling scheme will be introduced to make it easier for shoppers to choose products from animals treated well, with a public consultation on proposals next year.
The government says it wants to support livestock farmers financially by using public funds to pay for health and welfare enhancements that are “valued by the public and not currently delivered sufficiently by the market or through existing regulatory standards”.
Innovation
Grants will be given to farmers, foresters, growers and contractors so that they can afford to invest in the latest equipment, technology and infrastructure to improve their profitability and benefit the environment.
It will be a competitive scheme, with applications more likely to be successful in delivering a “public good” gaining larger grants.
Farmers will be encouraged to participate and shape science and technology field trials for new technologies and mechanisms.
Nature and landscape restoration
Farmers and landowners will be paid for “public goods”, covering how farmland is managed, how natural habitats are cared for and how the biodiversity of entire landscapes can be restored.
Payments will be set to make sure that making environmental improvements is “financially viable and fair” and encourages high levels of participation.
The Sustainable Farming Incentive will focus on field and livestock management as well as trees, woodland hedgerows and soil management.
Local nature recovery will focus on creating, managing and restoring habitats such as wetlands, freshwater, peatland, heathland, species-rich grassland, and coastal habitat, as well as connecting isolated habitats to form networks.
Landscape recovery will focus on large-scale forest and woodland creation, restoration and improvement; ecosystem restoration; peatland restoration; and the creation and restoration of coastal habitats such as wetlands and salt marsh.
A new approach from 2024 will distinguish between basic legal requirements for farmers and land management standards under which they are paid to go beyond this minimum.
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Brexit will transform our fields and farms
Ministers pledge to ‘restore landscape’ by diverting subsidies
Ben Webster, Environment Editor
Monday November 30 2020, 12.01am, The Times
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The National Farmers’ Union warned that the speed of direct subsidy cuts could undermine food production
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Wildlife will thrive, air and water will be cleaner and livestock will be treated more humanely under the biggest change in farming policy for half a century, the government will promise today.
A seven-year plan to phase out paying subsidies to farmers based on how much land they own has been laid out as part of a post-Brexit overhaul of agriculture in England. Instead, farmers will receive money for improving productivity and the environment.
The present system of “direct payments” per hectare under the EU’s common agricultural policy will start to be reduced next year. By 2024 farmers will have lost at least half these payments and by 2028 the government aims to have ended them completely.
The National Farmers’ Union warned that the speed of the reduction in direct subsidies was “high risk” and some farms could become unviable, undermining domestic food production.
The agricultural transition plan, published today, says that ministers are aiming for all farmers by 2028 to be “running sustainable businesses that do not need to rely on public subsidy”.
The plan pledges to use the money farmers receive at present to “restore wilder landscapes” and achieve “enhanced beauty”. New farmers will be helped to start out, with land made available to them by offering lump-sum “exit payments” to existing farmers on condition that they leave the industry.
It will also confirm that the overall amount paid to farmers in England will stay at the present level of £2.4 billion a year until 2024, though they will have to earn it by producing “public goods”.
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Brexit: Saving my sheep farm
Animal welfare payments will focus initially on eradicating endemic diseases in cattle, pigs and sheep. Farmers will also receive grants for measures to reduce animal suffering, such as rubber walkways to cut lameness in cattle and better holding pens to minimise stress.
A new welfare labelling scheme will be introduced to make it easier for shoppers to choose products from animals treated well, with a public consultation on proposals next year. A system of payment by results for improving animal welfare will be piloted in 2023.
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The existing subsidy that pays a farmer £233 per hectare will start to be reduced from next year, with £1 billion a year made available for the new environmental land management (ELM) scheme, which will be introduced by the end of 2024. The plan states: “We will pay for delivery of land management actions that contribute to clean air, clean and plentiful water, thriving plants and wildlife, reduction in and protection from environmental hazards, mitigation of and adaptation to climate change [and] enhanced beauty, heritage and engagement with the environment.”
Smaller landowners who receive £30,000 or less a year in direct payments will lose 5 per cent next year, rising to 50 per cent in 2024. Larger landowners will lose progressively more, with those who receive at least £150,000 losing 25 per cent next year and 70 per cent in 2024. The government will sweeten the pill by promising to stop issuing fines for what it deems minor breaches of rules.
The proportion of public funding spent on environmental and welfare improvements will rise from 23 per cent next year to 57 per cent in 2024. Nine per cent each year will incentivise improvements in productivity, such as investing in equipment and training.
In a foreword to the 66-page document laying out the plan, George Eustice, the environment secretary, described it as the “biggest change in agricultural policy in half a century”.
In a speech today to farmers and environmental groups, he will say: “Rather than the prescriptive, top-down rules of the EU era, we want to support the choices that farmers and land managers take. If we work together to get this right, then a decade from now the rest of the world will want to follow our lead.”
Minette Batters, president of the NFU, urged ministers to be “mindful of the impact [of] sudden drops in income”.
The government’s plans for the future of farming cover an ambitious collection of aims and promises but the look of many of the regulations and schemes has yet to be finalised (write Will Humphries and Ben Webster).
Included in the 66-page report are a number of plans which will alter the way we grow and rear our food for decades to come and hopefully in a sustainable way that will ensure farmers and nature can survive and flourish posy-Brexit. A new regulatory approach to be brought in from 2024 will have a clear distinction between the basic legal requirements farmers are obliged to meet by law, and land management scheme standards under which they are paid to go beyond this minimum.
A labelling scheme will make it easier for shoppers to choose products from animals treated well
DAN KITWOOD/GETTY IMAGES
New farmers in, old farmers out
Farmers who want to leave the industry will be able to apply from 2022 for a lump sum “exit payment” made up of the subsidies they would have received up to 2027. This will make more farms “available to those who want to start out on their own”, the plan says.
“They would need to meet relevant conditions, including leaving the sector,” the plan says. A “new entrants support scheme” is being developed and Defra plans to open it to applicants in 2022.
Animal welfare
The plan includes a pledge to “ensure every livestock farmer is improving the health and welfare of their animals”.
It says a “pathway” is being developed with the farming industry “to promote the production of healthier, higher-welfare animals at a level beyond compliance with current regulations”.
Payments will initially be focused on improving animal health by reducing disease, such as viral diarrhoea in cattle which costs the industry £35 million a year. Farmers will also be incentivised to make better use of antibiotics to reduce the risk of resistant superbugs.
Grants will be available for welfare improvements, including measures which “allow animals to show their natural behaviour”.
A payment-by-results scheme is being developed and Defra is conducting research to decide which which welfare enhancements will be incentivised.
Those under consideration include ending use of cages for hens and pig farrowing crates which severely restrict the movement of sows. Farmers could also be rewarded for not trimming the beaks of chicks and not cutting off the tails of pigs.
Health and disease support
This will initially focus on controlling or eradicating endemic diseases among cattle, pigs and sheep. A plan will be put in place to better understand antimicrobial-resistant diseases and the use of antibiotics in the food chain.
Air quality
Farmers will be required to cover all stores of slurry to prevent it evaporating and causing air pollution from fine particles. which are swept by winds to residential areas.
Grants will be available for farmers to invest in new slurry stores and low-emission spreading equipment to ensure fertiliser goes into the ground and not into the air.
Labelling
A new welfare labelling scheme will be introduced to make it easier for shoppers to choose products from animals treated well, with a public consultation on proposals next year.
The government says it wants to support livestock farmers financially by using public funds to pay for health and welfare enhancements that are “valued by the public and not currently delivered sufficiently by the market or through existing regulatory standards”.
Innovation
Grants will be given to farmers, foresters, growers and contractors so that they can afford to invest in the latest equipment, technology and infrastructure to improve their profitability and benefit the environment.
It will be a competitive scheme, with applications more likely to be successful in delivering a “public good” gaining larger grants.
Farmers will be encouraged to participate and shape science and technology field trials for new technologies and mechanisms.
Nature and landscape restoration
Farmers and landowners will be paid for “public goods”, covering how farmland is managed, how natural habitats are cared for and how the biodiversity of entire landscapes can be restored.
Payments will be set to make sure that making environmental improvements is “financially viable and fair” and encourages high levels of participation.
The Sustainable Farming Incentive will focus on field and livestock management as well as trees, woodland hedgerows and soil management.
Local nature recovery will focus on creating, managing and restoring habitats such as wetlands, freshwater, peatland, heathland, species-rich grassland, and coastal habitat, as well as connecting isolated habitats to form networks.
Landscape recovery will focus on large-scale forest and woodland creation, restoration and improvement; ecosystem restoration; peatland restoration; and the creation and restoration of coastal habitats such as wetlands and salt marsh.
A new approach from 2024 will distinguish between basic legal requirements for farmers and land management standards under which they are paid to go beyond this minimum.
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You illustrate why I will never understand the kind of farmer who wants every contract operation done for fudge all money and will change contractors left, right and centre to do it. A man that turns up, has the kit (and the staff) who gets it done pronto and in the manner you would be proud of had you done it yourself. Who cares if the contractor is a bit more expensive?!
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Ministers are right to replace the current system of agricultural subsidies with grants that prioritise public goods such as the environment and animal welfare
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The government has long been clear that it sees Britain’s departure from the European Union’s common agricultural policy as an opportunity to take a radically different approach to farming subsidies. The agricultural transition plan to be published today will confirm just how radical it intends to be. Ministers are proposing to sweep away in only seven years the CAP’s system of paying landowners a direct subsidy based on the number of acres farmed. Payouts will be reduced by half by the end of 2024. In their place, the government plans to introduce a new system of payments to incentivise better stewardship of the land, delivering environmental benefits and boosting innovation and productivity.
This is a welcome move. The CAP was rightly long considered one of the least defensible aspects of EU membership. Although the subsidies had been gradually cut back over the years, they remain excessively generous, accounting for 36 per cent of the EU’s overall budget. They are also poorly targeted. Partly in response to British pressure, the EU had moved away from the production-based subsidies that had led to the creation of wine lakes and butter mountains. But today’s land-based subsidies paid out the same £233 per hectare to a large-scale farm in East Anglia as a struggling hill farm in Wales. The system contained little scope to target subsidies to incentivise wider public policy objectives. Only about £600 million out of the £2.4 billion received by English landowners is directed at environmental schemes.
The government says that its new approach to agricultural support in England will address these shortcomings. It is proposing a new set of environmental land management schemes, which it says will pay farmers for actions that “contribute to clean air, clean and plentiful water, thriving plants and wildlife, reduction in and protection from environmental hazards, mitigation of and adaptation to climate change [and] enhanced beauty, heritage and engagement with the environment”. For example, the government says that it may pay farmers to cover their slurry, thereby reducing a significant source of air pollution. Ministers also hope that a new scheme that will encourage older farmers to retire and offer grants for younger farmers starting out will bring fresh energy and ideas to British farming.
There’s no question that new thinking is needed. If Britain is to have any chance of meeting its ambitious carbon reduction targets, millions of trees will need to be planted on existing farmland. Changes in farming techniques are also needed to reverse the devastating impact on biodiversity caused by decades of intensive farming, not least from the elimination of hedgerows and excessive use of pesticides. The new system can also be used to drive improvements in standards of animal welfare. Meanwhile the public will welcome a system that encourages farmers to see themselves as stewards of treasured landscapes.
Nonetheless no one should underestimate the scale of the challenge facing the sector. At present about a third of farm incomes are from subsidies. Many farms will inevitably become unviable as these are withdrawn. Nor is there any guarantee that the new grants will match the level of subsidies under the CAP, given that these will be subject to future Whitehall spending battles. At the same time the sector will face competition from subsidised EU farmers and potentially, depending on the outcome of trade negotiations, farmers from other countries operating to lower standards. New immigration rules will make it harder for farms to recruit foreign labourers. Even so, farming should not be treated any differently from any other sector facing such challenges. The government is right to target its support to helping farming to adapt, not preserving a model that has ceased to serve the public good.
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The government has long been clear that it sees Britain’s departure from the European Union’s common agricultural policy as an opportunity to take a radically different approach to farming subsidies. The agricultural transition plan to be published today will confirm just how radical it intends to be. Ministers are proposing to sweep away in only seven years the CAP’s system of paying landowners a direct subsidy based on the number of acres farmed. Payouts will be reduced by half by the end of 2024. In their place, the government plans to introduce a new system of payments to incentivise better stewardship of the land, delivering environmental benefits and boosting innovation and productivity.
This is a welcome move. The CAP was rightly long considered one of the least defensible aspects of EU membership. Although the subsidies had been gradually cut back over the years, they remain excessively generous, accounting for 36 per cent of the EU’s overall budget. They are also poorly targeted. Partly in response to British pressure, the EU had moved away from the production-based subsidies that had led to the creation of wine lakes and butter mountains. But today’s land-based subsidies paid out the same £233 per hectare to a large-scale farm in East Anglia as a struggling hill farm in Wales. The system contained little scope to target subsidies to incentivise wider public policy objectives. Only about £600 million out of the £2.4 billion received by English landowners is directed at environmental schemes.
The government says that its new approach to agricultural support in England will address these shortcomings. It is proposing a new set of environmental land management schemes, which it says will pay farmers for actions that “contribute to clean air, clean and plentiful water, thriving plants and wildlife, reduction in and protection from environmental hazards, mitigation of and adaptation to climate change [and] enhanced beauty, heritage and engagement with the environment”. For example, the government says that it may pay farmers to cover their slurry, thereby reducing a significant source of air pollution. Ministers also hope that a new scheme that will encourage older farmers to retire and offer grants for younger farmers starting out will bring fresh energy and ideas to British farming.
There’s no question that new thinking is needed. If Britain is to have any chance of meeting its ambitious carbon reduction targets, millions of trees will need to be planted on existing farmland. Changes in farming techniques are also needed to reverse the devastating impact on biodiversity caused by decades of intensive farming, not least from the elimination of hedgerows and excessive use of pesticides. The new system can also be used to drive improvements in standards of animal welfare. Meanwhile the public will welcome a system that encourages farmers to see themselves as stewards of treasured landscapes.
Nonetheless no one should underestimate the scale of the challenge facing the sector. At present about a third of farm incomes are from subsidies. Many farms will inevitably become unviable as these are withdrawn. Nor is there any guarantee that the new grants will match the level of subsidies under the CAP, given that these will be subject to future Whitehall spending battles. At the same time the sector will face competition from subsidised EU farmers and potentially, depending on the outcome of trade negotiations, farmers from other countries operating to lower standards. New immigration rules will make it harder for farms to recruit foreign labourers. Even so, farming should not be treated any differently from any other sector facing such challenges. The government is right to target its support to helping farming to adapt, not preserving a model that has ceased to serve the public good.
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Brexit: Ministers unveil next steps in England's farming policy
The post-Brexit plans for farm payments are the most significant for 50 years, the government says.
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Typical BBC slant
"Under the outgoing EU system, farmers got taxpayers' money based on the amount of land they farm. The richer the farmer, the more the grant."
Didn't know you had to be rich to get more money? I thought it was based on area farmed not owned!
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Fairly major then...
Hardly a reduction in red tape and bureaucracy. I also have doubts as to whether Defra can deliver this complicated and radical new system.
As funds are diverted to environment outcomes I suspect a small minority will hoover up the lion's share for landscape scale projects (National Trust, RSPB). On the other hand, smaller farms have less time for sitting in the office and will be less able to access funding to replace their BPS
Hardly a reduction in red tape and bureaucracy. I also have doubts as to whether Defra can deliver this complicated and radical new system.
As funds are diverted to environment outcomes I suspect a small minority will hoover up the lion's share for landscape scale projects (National Trust, RSPB). On the other hand, smaller farms have less time for sitting in the office and will be less able to access funding to replace their BPS
It is really based on land ownership and has little to do with farming if we are really honest.Brexit: Ministers unveil next steps in England's farming policy
The post-Brexit plans for farm payments are the most significant for 50 years, the government says.www.bbc.co.uk
Typical BBC slant
"Under the outgoing EU system, farmers got taxpayers' money based on the amount of land they farm. The richer the farmer, the more the grant."
Didn't know you had to be rich to get more money? I thought it was based on area farmed not owned!
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt8969332/ if you can get over the ridiculous americanisms in this film perhaps this is how we should all be farming rather than commodity production
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No don't think so
We are supposed to budget using a crystal ball.
Instead of giving us money to spend how we see fit , we will now get money for income foregone (lower turn over, less output)and towards items they tell us we need to reduce emissions etc .
Only certain shiny toys.
Surely if you have the land mass , you are going to have a larger area to do more environmental options and potentially claim more money ( obviously if the sums stack up) only capping will prevent larger farms , estates getting bigger payouts but that then means they will only do a fraction of the work they would have with negativeeffectto the environment, personally I believe it's a smoke screen to shake the tree let those that will survive do so and the smaller go to the wall ,the money will seen to be there as farming support but the reality will possibly be that sum don't stack up , we've had a clue to the moral support to expect from the Government over its decision not to support an amendment to the Ag Bill re- imported foods been produced to domestic standards, so I wouldn't expect alot if any worth while support in monetary terms
I wondered about capping, it will suit the biggest landowners like it has in the past. So if you put some shiny new handling pens in for cattle say that makes them less stressed will you get an ongoing payment or is it a one off to pay for the kit ?