FTTP on Demand

The fibre is in a solid 3.2 mm OD white plastic sheath, which is then encased in a very tough black plastic outer (6.3 mm OD, or to us oldies 1/4"), with a 2.5 mm copper pair attached to the side in a distorted figure 8
Are you referring to the drop cable to the house? I think that's a siamese cable.

The fibre and copper on the install up along the lane here are completely separate. See pics from my post #179 above. This is as installed to the last pole. Fibre cable has the yellow stripe. I'm told by the 'spurts over at thinkbroadbandforums its blown fibre actually.

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sjt01

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Mixed Farmer
Location
North Norfolk
Are you referring to the drop cable to the house? I think that's a siamese cable.

The fibre and copper on the install up along the lane here are completely separate. See pics from my post #179 above. This is as installed to the last pole. Fibre cable has the yellow stripe. I'm told by the 'spurts over at thinkbroadbandforums its blown fibre actually.

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Yes, I was describing what was coming in to our modem, it is stripped back to the white about 6" before the modem
 
My updates from Cerberus seem to go round in circles. They just repeat the same nonsense, until I bark at them, then they run off to Openreach to get a semi sensible update.

The next week they’re back to repeating the same message from 2 weeks ago, which appears to contradict the previous update. It’s enough to send you around the twist.

Think that the whole BT Openreach job is slow. Placed an order for native WBC FTTP BT Business at the beginning of April and still waiting for installation over 5 weeks later. Told it would be done by Thursday, phone back on Thursday and told to phone again on Tuesday. [emoji849]
 
Think that the whole BT Openreach job is slow. Placed an order for native WBC FTTP BT Business at the beginning of April and still waiting for installation over 5 weeks later. Told it would be done by Thursday, phone back on Thursday and told to phone again on Tuesday. [emoji849]
5 weeks! Man that be blazing fast. Even 12 weeks would be OK by me ;)

I’ve suspected but ultimately come to the conclusion that the complexity of the job is no reflection of how long it will take them. There really is no one managing this process - it’s just one group handing it off to another group and back and forth. So it will take as long as it takes. Given the actual effort and manpower involved, If it was correctly time managed this job could have been done and dusted easily in under 5 weeks rather than the 50 weeks it probably will take them.

Doesn’t reflect well on the productive capacity of Great Britain post Brexshit does it?
 
5 weeks! Man that be blazing fast. Even 12 weeks would be OK by me ;)

I’ve suspected but ultimately come to the conclusion that the complexity of the job is no reflection of how long it will take them. There really is no one managing this process - it’s just one group handing it off to another group and back and forth. So it will take as long as it takes. Given the actual effort and manpower involved, If it was correctly time managed this job could have been done and dusted easily in under 5 weeks rather than the 50 weeks it probably will take them.

Doesn’t reflect well on the productive capacity of Great Britain post Brexshit does it?
The best part about it is that there are two properties on farm, both about 20m each from the pole, and one already has an active fttp service! To be fair, BT Business at least has 4G Assure so that's given a bit of a help (which itself is faster at 25mbps than the ADSL of 0.7mbps) Ordered FTTP 78mbps
 

Steevo

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Location
Gloucestershire
I’d love to suggest it’s a result of all these utilities once being govt owned or such like.

Yet the FTTP contract round here with Gigaclear is a mess too. Running years behind their original schedule.

Communication from all parties is shocking too.

Makes you wonder how they actually succeed with running their businesses.
 
I’d love to suggest it’s a result of all these utilities once being govt owned or such like.

Yet the FTTP contract round here with Gigaclear is a mess too. Running years behind their original schedule.

Communication from all parties is shocking too.

Makes you wonder how they actually succeed with running their businesses.
For heavens sake man. Stop attempting to use logic here. You will just hurt your head. :D
 

itsalwaysme

Member
Location
Cheshire
Is that the BT Openreach company motto?
BT have certainly spent a lot of time and effort in designing their new logo, I've no idea how anyone could have thought of anything so original

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I wonder what "rebranding" actually costs for a large company, paperwork, advertising, vans, workwear etc etc.

I'm actually waiting for Fibre Broadband connection, they've installed the "empty" tube back to the third pole with the green box on, but are no having trouble feeding the "fibre" bit into it, they can only get to the second pole :rolleyes:
I had a text from them saying the "engineer" needed access to the property on the 25/4/19 the text was sent on the 4/5/19 :rolleyes:
 
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upnortheast

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Northumberland
Having dealt with some of these Utility companies over the years I`ve got a theory. -
Staff get promoted till they reach the point where they are out of their depth., - Then they are left there creating havoc :scratchhead:
 

foxbox

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Location
West Northants
Just to add to the fun a new grant scheme has launched offering £3.5k per business and £1.5k per residential connection for those in rural areas.

https://gigabitvoucher.culture.gov.uk/rural/

I've just been contacted by Openreach as my quote hasn't progressed and they seem quite keen to sign me up, first though they've got to check the build cost hasn't changed since drawing up the plans for the previous £2.5k grant scheme. Anyone want to guess whether build costs will have increased or decreased...?!
 
Just to add to the fun a new grant scheme has launched offering £3.5k per business and £1.5k per residential connection for those in rural areas.

https://gigabitvoucher.culture.gov.uk/rural/

I've just been contacted by Openreach as my quote hasn't progressed and they seem quite keen to sign me up, first though they've got to check the build cost hasn't changed since drawing up the plans for the previous £2.5k grant scheme. Anyone want to guess whether build costs will have increased or decreased...?!
The voucher was £3k when I did mine last year.

Yeah I’d fully expect their charges to go up with “inflation/RPI/CPI” or some other three letter acronym they think they can get away with :whistle:

Apparently build costs went through the roof when OR moved from the old “banding” model to the new “bespoke quote” pricing method.

What a shock! Not :rolleyes::cool:
 

upnortheast

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Northumberland
Update on our local scheme. After a flurry of activity a month ago when they had the road closed there hasn`t been much activity.
It looked like all the connections were done, apart from the road end where it is to connect to the main cable from Hexham.

Looks good this morning. Couple of vans at the manhole on the main road Looked like some serious splicing going on

Live in June would be good
 
Engineer was here at 08:30 this morning. Pretty quickly works out that last pole serving house is too old to climb. Yep knew that already. Thought you guys did too....hey ho.

So he’s on the phone for half an hour to get a hoist crew here....the two local crews aren’t working today. So now waiting for a crew to come from Clacton after they’d finished their high voltage job (who knew they moonlighted :sneaky:).

So anyway the engineer has gone to do another job and he promised he’d be back later today.

Look I’ve even been left a nice Huawei box as a “promissory note” :D

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