FTTP on Demand

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What today has felt like at times...:eek::D:ROFLMAO:

Still wrestling with parts of router setup/local network, which aren't working right, but in the main the new broadband looks pretty good (y)

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{just edited to take my IP address out of the Speedtest shot}
 
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From the BT web site
Download From 300.3 to 300.3Mbps
Upload From 45 to 45.5Mbps
A very tight tolerance band!
Interested to know how you're getting almost 98 Mbps upload in that case, unless they are being generous and not enforcing the limit strictly. I can see the upload here bounce down from mid-50s down to 30 mbps where it stays pegged. So Cerberus are enforcing the 30 Mbps upload speed pretty sharpish,

Yeah I'm contracted for 12 months on this package. It's just the way it is with On Demand services. Once past the 12 month mark you're free to choose from other FTTP providers as the service is then officially regraded to "native" from "on demand".

Openreach are now offering the 1000 down / 220 up via ISPs (sorry "communications providers"). But the prices are ££££
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Steevo

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Location
Gloucestershire
Glad you're all set up and running!

FTTP seems to be edging closer here - fibre now being laid along the road outside. Gigaclear claim the cabinet will go live Q3 2019 and works completed by Q4 2019.

Not holding my breath though. Even once the cables are in on the road, it'll still take a while for them to get the installation teams out to connect up the 200m from the road to the property - I can see quite a backlog forming on that front with so many properties wanting to be connected at once when it goes live.
 

Steevo

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Location
Gloucestershire
Engineer was here at 08:30 this morning. Pretty quickly works out that last pole serving house is too old to climb. Yep knew that already. Thought you guys did too....hey ho.

So he’s on the phone for half an hour to get a hoist crew here....the two local crews aren’t working today. So now waiting for a crew to come from Clacton after they’d finished their high voltage job (who knew they moonlighted :sneaky:).

So anyway the engineer has gone to do another job and he promised he’d be back later today.

Look I’ve even been left a nice Huawei box as a “promissory note” :D

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Handy having batteries for the router - is that for power cuts? I see it has a Charging light.

Are you planning to use that router for the FTTP....? I think I remember you saying you were going to link it to 4G too.
 
Sounds good. Keep at them and get your neighbours to join the chorus. They seem to move a bit faster if there is pressure.

Funny thing when the tech turns up yesterday - he says you don’t work for BT do you? I say no (whispering thank goodness under my breath).

He says I’ve never before on a connection job had quite so many chaser/update calls from the office on the way to a job to make sure everything is on track and the customer is “happy”....heck maybe my reputation proceeds me - naaaaaa it’s probably a standard sweetener they chuck at all their customers now :p:ROFLMAO::LOL:
 
Handy having batteries for the router - is that for power cuts? I see it has a Charging light.

Are you planning to use that router for the FTTP....? I think I remember you saying you were going to link it to 4G too.
That’s (I think) the new style ONT - optical network terminator, basically fibre to Ethernet end point.

Either you plug in ‘freebie’ BT/Openreach router or your own into that. It’s just an Ethernet cable comes out of it. Batteries you saw are backup. I haven’t tested power fail backup yet.

I’ve got the network and my router set up ‘vanilla’ like. I’m trying to do some slightly tricksy things with the network here, but all I’ve managed to do is break it (more)!

Picture is temporary cable jangling and pulling going on. The small yellow fibres are mine not theirs going into 2 small Netgear switches.

Their incoming fibre is the small white cable wedged between the ONT and the wall! My main router isn’t located in all that jumble. The grey cable is plugged into the patch panel port that goes to my router. The green cable is the patch from my router to one of the Netgear switches.

There is a small UPS in the base of that cab. You can see the white plug pack for the ONT plugged in there- so there’s actually 2 levels of power backup, my UPS and the batteries in the ONT.

It’s all a bit of a mess that needs tidying!

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Steevo

Member
Location
Gloucestershire
That’s (I think) the new style ONT - optical network terminator, basically fibre to Ethernet end point.

Either you plug in ‘freebie’ BT/Openreach router or your own into that. It’s just an Ethernet cable comes out of it. Batteries you saw are backup. I haven’t tested power fail backup yet.

I’ve got the network and my router set up ‘vanilla’ like. I’m trying to do some slightly tricksy things with the network here, but all I’ve managed to do is break it (more)!

Picture is temporary cable jangling and pulling going on. The small yellow fibres are mine not theirs going into 2 small Netgear switches.

Their incoming fibre is the small white cable wedged between the ONT and the wall! My main router isn’t located in all that jumble. The grey cable is plugged into the patch panel port that goes to my router. The green cable is the patch from my router to one of the Netgear switches.

There is a small UPS in the base of that cab. You can see the white plug pack for the ONT plugged in there- so there’s actually 2 levels of power backup, my UPS and the batteries in the ONT.

It’s all a bit of a mess that needs tidying!

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Seeing things like this really makes me want a (farm) tour of your place!

It's like a whole nother world!
 

Steevo

Member
Location
Gloucestershire
Sounds good. Keep at them and get your neighbours to join the chorus. They seem to move a bit faster if there is pressure.

Funny thing when the tech turns up yesterday - he says you don’t work for BT do you? I say no (whispering thank goodness under my breath).

He says I’ve never before on a connection job had quite so many chaser/update calls from the office on the way to a job to make sure everything is on track and the customer is “happy”....heck maybe my reputation proceeds me - naaaaaa it’s probably a standard sweetener they chuck at all their customers now :p:ROFLMAO::LOL:

Haha, glad I'm not the only one who does this! Soon as I saw the cones out today I pinged an email off to Gigaclear enquiring about it all again (hence the update) - they've been surprisingly patient with me! Currently waiting to hear back how many POTs (I assume this means "point of termination" or such) they are planning to lay in the verge.

I guess at least they know they'll have one customer to make use to the millions of investment they are making!!
 
Haha, glad I'm not the only one who does this! Soon as I saw the cones out today I pinged an email off to Gigaclear enquiring about it all again (hence the update) - they've been surprisingly patient with me! Currently waiting to hear back how many POTs (I assume this means "point of termination" or such) they are planning to lay in the verge.

I guess at least they know they'll have one customer to make use to the millions of investment they are making!!
I think they literally mean pot - it’s a term the electrical guys use as in “pot end” - its like a large fat blob that takes the cable in both ends, they take a split off and fill it up with water resistant jelly sh!t (soft setting epoxy) with the splice chamber etc tucked up inside.

(see paragraph 3)
https://www.gigaclear.com/wp-content/uploads/installationguide.pdf

Some typical examples. Openreach underground “Splitter” node at bottom.

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Steevo

Member
Location
Gloucestershire
I think they literally mean pot - it’s a term the electrical guys use as in “pot end” - its like a large fat blob that takes the cable in both ends, they take a split off and fill it up with water resistant jelly sh!t (soft setting epoxy) with the splice chamber etc tucked up inside.

(see paragraph 3)
https://www.gigaclear.com/wp-content/uploads/installationguide.pdf

Some typical examples. Openreach underground “Splitter” node at bottom.

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:banghead:

Until today I'd gone along with "pot" just as your say......wrote it in my email and the reply came back POT...hence I assumed perhaps it really did stand for something.


EDIT: https://www.tresham.org.uk/2019/05/fibre-optic-network/

Decided to Google for "fibre point of termination" just in case. Now either I'm forward thinking....or someone else has put 2 and 2 together and made 5 also!
 
:banghead:

Until today I'd gone along with "pot" just as your say......wrote it in my email and the reply came back POT...hence I assumed perhaps it really did stand for something.
Man I had the dude at Cerberus quoting Optical Character Recognition as they tried to explain to me what an OCR was in an exchange.

They truly have zero clue.

The only three letter acronym that comes remotely close is POP. Which does actually stand for something = Point of Presence. But think almost exchange building in scale rather than some plastic in the dirt.
 

Steevo

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Location
Gloucestershire
Man I had the dude at Cerberus quoting Optical Character Recognition as they tried to explain to me what an OCR was in an exchange.

They truly have zero clue.

The only three letter acronym that comes remotely close is POP. Which does actually stand for something = Point of Presence. But think almost exchange building in scale rather than some plastic in the dirt.

....and I always thought it was Oats, Cheerios and Rice. As I understood it that's what they fed the hamsters that turn the big internet wheel in each exchange. They faster they turn, the higher your broadband speed.
 
I guess at least they know they'll have one customer to make use to the millions of investment they are making!!
Am expecting the “real” cost of fibre (the proper job, not to the cabinet shite) to drop similar to what 4G has.

When I first got 4G broadband it was £26 a month for a whole whopping 8 GB. The next year the data cap doubled and the price dropped to £20. And so it went on more or less. Lucky my kids were too young then to work out what streaming TV was eh!

So roll forward 5 years and you still pay out roughly the same in pound terms (less inflation!?) but instead of 8 GB you can get around 10 to 15 times that amount if data. Or unlimited! So in real terms it’s actually far better.

(And now all 3 of my children know what streaming TV is and how to mercilessly decimate a data allowance)
 

dazza b

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Location
Lancaster
Interested to know how you're getting almost 98 Mbps upload in that case, unless they are being generous and not enforcing the limit strictly. I can see the upload here bounce down from mid-50s down to 30 mbps where it stays pegged. So Cerberus are enforcing the 30 Mbps upload speed pretty sharpish,

Yeah I'm contracted for 12 months on this package. It's just the way it is with On Demand services. Once past the 12 month mark you're free to choose from other FTTP providers as the service is then officially regraded to "native" from "on demand".

Openreach are now offering the 1000 down / 220 up via ISPs (sorry "communications providers"). But the prices are ££££
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Omg prices are extortionate this what I get on my phone
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On the computer we get 950mb upload all for £30
 

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