FTTP on Demand

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  1. Steevo

    Steevo Member

    Location:
    Gloucestershire
    :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

    Wow, that's some premium they expect in Year 1!
     
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  2. Nothing's for nothing as they say!
     
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  3. Update from Cerberus this morning...

    Thank you for your call. As discussed the survey has been completed and the report sent to the planning team. We are now waiting for the planner to provide us with the costing.

    We will let you know once the confirmed charges are available.

    Next update is due on 20/09/2018.

    Kind regards,

    Aneta

    Aneta Patrylak
    Provisioning Administrator
    Cerberus Networks Ltd
     
  4. Steevo

    Steevo Member

    Location:
    Gloucestershire
    They're deciding on the number of zeros they need to add.....
     
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  5. :eek::eek::D:D:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: Yeah its like power supply companies charging for new 3-phase connections or water companies for a new supply
     
  6. Steevo

    Steevo Member

    Location:
    Gloucestershire
    Exactly!

    Telephone used to be cheap - pay £50/£100 to EE/Sky/BT etc and next thing (well, about six months later!) a pole and line appears.
     
  7. Update: Cerberus received the costs from OpenSheep at some point this week, so I’m awaiting a call now from the account manager there on Monday to “discuss”....yes I think that’s the gentle sound of zeros being added :p:ROFLMAO:
     
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  8. Just came across this link @Steevo from a thread on thinkbroadband forum in answer to someone with similar concerns as yourself.

    Were you aware that Gigaclear wholesaled their network to other providers?

    https://www.gigaclear.com/retailserviceproviders/
     
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  9. Steevo

    Steevo Member

    Location:
    Gloucestershire
    Thanks. Yes I was.....though I wasn’t sure how fluid the market was. A bit like Apple I guess....lots of people can sell the product, but the price may be set centrally and then a markup added.

    Call me a cynic if you like...!
     
  10. Confirmed build cost came in today: £6,450 + VAT.

    This apparently takes into account the deductions for the survey charge (already paid) and for "premises passed" @ £850 (must be my near neighbour, except they weren't party to the order, but Openreach have been 'kind' enough to pass on the discount anyhow....:scratchhead:)

    So after taking into account £3,000 deduction for the DCMS Gigabit voucher scheme, the cost to me works out at £3,450 (net of VAT)
     
  11. Lead time for install is an average of 6 months according to Cerberus, but could vary anywhere between 3 and 9 months.

    The Market A surcharge (£1,140 +VAT p.a) is also due to disappear from services from 1 October, so it wont apply to me.
     
  12. Steevo

    Steevo Member

    Location:
    Gloucestershire
    Oh, so it's gone UP....by about 30%! (n)
     
  13. They had the zero adding machine running overtime...
     
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  14. foxbox

    foxbox Member

    Location:
    West Northants
    It'd almost be worth starting another business with it's own phone line (and associated grant...) at that price; maybe a broadband consultancy firm which never quite gets going once it's set up?

    I was talking to a neighbour who was talking to an Openreach engineer a few days ago; he was saying that OR are trialling a fibre aerial cable in Norfolk at the moment with plans to roll it out nationally quite soon. No idea if this is old news or not but the suggestion was that it should result in build charges dropping significantly as a result of not needing to duct everything. Presumably trees will do just as much if not more damage to fibre cables though so no idea how long a term plan it really is.
     
  15. Steevo

    Steevo Member

    Location:
    Gloucestershire
    I thought fibre overhead was already available? Seen a couple of sets of poles and wires locally that I was fairly sure were FTTPOD. Perhaps not.
     
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  16. sjt01

    sjt01 Member

    Location:
    North Norfolk
    Currently being installed in our village. Should have been installed underground last year but delayed for the pole mounted technique
     
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  17. Our install will be all overhead, with a small 300-400 metre stretch ducted, from the Ag Node to where it goes up on poles.

    From what I'm led to believe, for all fibre installs going forward OpenReach have moved to a 'connectorised' solution. They used to do a lot more blown fibre and splice type installations - but these require additional manpower/expertise.

    So to speed this up and make it more idiot proof, for new/clean installs they now have a pre-terminated solution. The last box up top of the pole, before your house/premises has an all weather connectorised box with waterproof plugs etc. They then run one continuous almighty tough “patch lead” from there, through any walls etc all the way into the optical termination. There are no more intermediate connection boxes or fibre splices in between.
     
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  18. foxbox

    foxbox Member

    Location:
    West Northants
    Even better if the OR man is out of date then, hopefully our quote will come down quite a bit...
     
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  19. Whatever civil works you can do on your own land to make their life easier will pay you dividends, as their customer trenching costs are gold plated.

    On the connectorised overhead fibre, I think they’re looking for solutions that give them the ability to “scale” with mass deployment.

    At the moment they’re way behind in terms of fibre capable crews, they can only manage 20 FTTPoD fibre installs per month across the whole country. That’s tiny, given they have hundreds of thousands of premises to connect in the next 5+ years.
     
  20. upnortheast

    upnortheast Member

    Location:
    Northumberland
    That is unreal. So much for the thread above about copper being done away with after Jan 2020
     

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