FTTP on Demand

[J B]

Have you run some speed tests to check your ping times and jitter?

From 'Megapath'
Speed Test Plus
Internet Quality Test
DOWNLOAD
30.54
Mbps
UPLOAD
2.04
Mbps
LATENCY
21
ms
JITTER
2
ms

Netmeter:-

 

[Pheasant Surprise]

From 'Megapath'
Speed Test Plus
Internet Quality Test
DOWNLOAD
30.54
Mbps
UPLOAD
2.04
Mbps
LATENCY
21
ms
JITTER
2
ms

Netmeter:-
https://www.netmeter.co.uk/result/20184970136-5619/

Ping/jitter is fine and download is OK. Upload is a bit slow though.

 

[upnortheast]

the former sometimes has offers for unlimited data sims for £20 a month

Unlimited data doesn`t mean what you think it means
@Pheasant Surprise put an explaination on here a while ago.
Found it
Scroll down this page for an explaination of why unlimited data isn`t
https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/4g-ee-contracts.202478/page-6#post-4735344

 

[Pheasant Surprise]

Unlimited data doesn`t mean what you think it means
@Pheasant Surprise put an explaination on here a while ago.
Found it
Scroll down this page for an explaination of why unlimited data isn`t
https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/4g-ee-contracts.202478/page-6#post-4735344

This post n thread wasn’t it?

https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/4g-ee-contracts.202478/page-6#post-4735450

 

[Pheasant Surprise]

Unlimited data doesn`t mean what you think it means
@Pheasant Surprise put an explaination on here a while ago.
Found it
Scroll down this page for an explaination of why unlimited data isn`t
https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/4g-ee-contracts.202478/page-6#post-4735344

Oops missed your edit with the link! Sorry

 

[Steevo]

Update received on Friday last week:

“Underground cabling & jointing in issue with Openreach cabling team. This is now fully Rodded and Roped and ready for Cabling, OH allocator has been chased to make sure work is in hand to replace Decayed pole and Tree cutting.as per survey results”

So yeah 2020 here we come

Same time my landline will get fixed!

 

[Pheasant Surprise]

New year update....

“Openreach advised that the civils to clear blockages has been delayed due to the council advising that there is a Christmas embargo. Permits were granted for 06/01/19.”

Still waiting on a pole to get replaced too...just need a well timed winter storm

 

[upnortheast]

Openreach advised that the civils to clear blockages has been delayed due to the council a

Bugger.
But looking back I see my post on 30th October has turned out to be pretty accurate

 

[Pheasant Surprise]

Bugger.
But looking back I see my post on 30th October has turned out to be pretty accurate

I’m fairly relaxed about it. I knew it was going to take time Saying that, I’m pretty sure someone, somewhere is making some of this stuff up!

In early December update was “...now fully Rodded and Roped and ready for Cabling”

Yet one month later we have “...to clear blockages”.

Can you fully rod and rope through a blockage? Is it likely to become blocked after it’s rodded and roped? Hmmm sounds like utter ballcocks to me.

 

[upnortheast]

Often think these Utility Contractors would make crap farmers.
Combining the Spring Barley in January that was drilled in July.
-- Sounds like soviet agriculture when I was there in the `70s

Maybe farmers should be managing the utility contractors, might get the jobs done on time & on budget

 

[Pheasant Surprise]

Maybe farmers should be managing the utility contractors, might get the jobs done on time & on budget

The only way these turkeys stay afloat, isn’t through management finesse that’s for sure! They just charge waaaaaaay over the odds to cover all the mistakes, delays, duplications, inefficiencies and fudge ups.

The rest of us would have gone broke long ago.

 

[Steevo]

The only way these turkeys stay afloat, isn’t through management finesse that’s for sure! They just charge waaaaaaay over the odds to cover all the mistakes, delays, duplications, inefficiencies and fudge ups.

The rest of us would have gone broke long ago.

....and yet they still get the contracts, work etc. (admittedly they're too big to fail also)

 

[ollie989898]

What is the rough price to get FTTP installed, assuming you met the cost of running a cable yourself?

 

[upnortheast]

(admittedly they're too big to fail also)

errrm - Carrilion ?

 

[Steevo]

errrm - Carrilion ?

Very true! However I think if Openreach or one of the power distribution firms went pop it might be harder to find a replacement in a hurry, but I would be happy to see such a thing happen.

I think plenty of government subcontractors like Carillion....such as Amey etc. are running a potential knife edge. The local governments now struggle to function without them.....and the contracts just seem to get shared around in turn - one takes it on, charges a fortune, does a shocking job, gets kicked out, the next promises better, never quite keeps those promises etc etc. Almost like some farm lets/FBTs/CFAs.

The trouble is without one firm or another doing the job, the job (to whatever standard!) would never get done.

 

[Pheasant Surprise]

What is the rough price to get FTTP installed, assuming you met the cost of running a cable yourself?

You can’t run the cable yourself. If their other infrastructure is underground, providing its your land or you have the necessary wayleaves, you can install ducting and ropes for them to pull their cabling through.

Ultimately its their infrastructure up to and including the ONT in your house or premises.

Here are some prices from one of the users on the thinkbroadband forum tracking the (free) desktop and (paid for) post survey quotes for FTTP on Demand installs.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QFkK1sLBFQjlGgTwHKUI3aJSdNH-lgFsQ71SMxarWBA/htmlview

Note that FTTP is quite a different beast from a cost perspective to FTTPoD.

 

[lm1000000]

In this area -
We (about 25 houses / businesses )were promised FTTP (about 12 months ago ) to be installed about now.- nowt happened
Seems the Gov has critised BT / Open whatsit for not reaching targets.
So they have taken the huff & are not doing any new quotes until a review has been carried out
Good job they don`t run a proper business

Hello,

Is this still the case?

There is government funding for full fibre networks which my company can help you unlock. We install and support full fibre networks.

Lee

 

[lm1000000]

Hello all,

We install full fibre networks in rural locations as part of the gigabit voucher scheme. We do this at a fraction of the cost/install time of BT. It is not easy but it is certainly not impossible!

If you would like to see if this fits for you and your business, give me a call: 07712088937

Thanks,

Lee

 

[Pheasant Surprise]

Hello all,

We install full fibre networks in rural locations as part of the gigabit voucher scheme. We do this at a fraction of the cost/install time of BT. It is not easy but it is certainly not impossible!

If you would like to see if this fits for you and your business, give me a call: 07712088937

Thanks,

Lee

Can you tell us about who you represent?

Presumably like other private fibre operators working in this space you are relying on the “goodwill” of farmers and other landowners in a given geography to freely (or at minimal ongoing charge) allocate private land to run your fibre cabling?

Otherwise how does it (your business model) work?

 

[upnortheast]

Hello,

Is this still the case?

There is government funding for full fibre networks which my company can help you unlock. We install and support full fibre networks.

Lee

Current promise is March - but seeing is believing
A new duct was installed just before Christmas where the BT cables go under the power lines. so maybe progress