FW OSR Masters event

Northdowns Martin

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Arable Farmer
Location
Snodland kent
Not plugging The yellow peril In anyway but have to say their OSR masters event held yesterday in Bedfordshire was very interesting. Well hosted by Philip Woods with good presentations from a variety of speakers. Tim Lamyman left us believing the crops genetic yield potential could be reachable with more attention to detail and a fair slice of good fortune!
 

Brisel

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Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
What do you think you can achieve on your farm, based on what you've learnt?

I've always read the yellow comic & wondered what I'm missing here but have tried various things like tissue testing, varying seed rates and always ended up with the same yield at the end... Since then I've tried to strip cost out of the system with the aim of enhancing margin the opposite way to what they say. Every day is a school day though!
 

Grass And Grain

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Yorks
I think getting a full stand across the whole field with no poor areas would be a good way to start.

Do I want a thin crop, or a thick one, or how much N, or just when to apply the N etc.? I've never really got to the bottom of all those questions. Wish I had a yield monitor on the combine.
 

principal skinner

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Arable Farmer
Location
Bedfordshire
OSR always mystifies me, last year ours looked fantastic, crop even from edge to edge, plenty thick enough, 230kgs N, fert always put on before a rain so it was washed in. Two late frosts and then the drought. 24cwt. Bugger.
 

T Hectares

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Arable Farmer
Location
Berkshire
Grew my best individual fields of OSR in 2015 and 2017 @ 1t/ha above the respective farm averages for each year

The one commonality between them? It was the first time each field had grown OSR in a very long time, no other differences in agronomy otherwise...
 

principal skinner

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Arable Farmer
Location
Bedfordshire
Grew my best individual fields of OSR in 2015 and 2017 @ 1t/ha above the respective farm averages for each year

The one commonality between them? It was the first time each field had grown OSR in a very long time, no other differences in agronomy otherwise...
Agree there, I think some of my ground is sick of growing OSR, got a 30 ha block planned for this coming autumn that hasn't grown it for at least 8 years.
 

Brisel

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Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
I agree about close rotations with lots of brassicas limiting yield but how does it actually happen? Sub clinical disease? Olpidium brassicae? Verticilium wilt?
 
Someone put some figures up from the event on twitter, they looked like a good blueprint for supply industry profitability, not farm profitability to me.

I'm not sure all those inputs go hand in hand with soil health either!

Any chance of a link old boy? Would like to see what inputs are advocated. I don't think I've got the climate or the soil to get to Tim Lamymans yield - does this make me unambitious or realistic?
 
I agree about close rotations with lots of brassicas limiting yield but how does it actually happen? Sub clinical disease? Olpidium brassicae? Verticilium wilt?

Probably a bit of all of it. Club root would be another.

I am suspicious of the maximum yield from OSR ethos, no one can guarantee huge yields from OSR, but I can personally give you great odds on a lot of heavyweight spending...
 

Flat 10

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Arable Farmer
Location
Fen Edge
Well I’m glad you went on it @Northdowns Martin and enjoyed it/found it valuable there will be plenty on here who will be envious of you if you approach Tim lamymans yields.... including me. I’m a rubbish osr grower. Any tips feel free to share....
 

Richard III

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Arable Farmer
Location
CW5 Cheshire
Any chance of a link old boy? Would like to see what inputs are advocated. I don't think I've got the climate or the soil to get to Tim Lamymans yield - does this make me unambitious or realistic?

I've only seen the one slide, and no details on inputs used. Got the same G.M. as Tim's world record crop from my low input DD OSR this year and from memory @Clive did too? So I'd say you're realistic! Each to their own and Tim's ability to produce record yields is very impressive, but I'm looking to reduce inputs not increase them.

https://twitter.com/Agronomist_bri/status/1070038527101071360

I think David Lord was also speaking at the event, I would have liked to hear what he had to say.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
I've only seen the one slide, and no details on inputs used. Got the same G.M. as Tim's world record crop from my low input DD OSR this year and from memory @Clive did too? So I'd say you're realistic! Each to their own and Tim's ability to produce record yields is very impressive, but I'm looking to reduce inputs not increase them.

https://twitter.com/Agronomist_bri/status/1070038527101071360

I think David Lord was also speaking at the event, I would have liked to hear what he had to say.

What was the gross margin ?

There is more than one route to achieving high gross / nett margins and one way is a LOT lower risk and capital intense than the way these world record crops are grown

Big sped OSR is certainly not game firvtyr feint hearted !
 

Richard III

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Arable Farmer
Location
CW5 Cheshire
Can you share it on here?

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