Gadhimai Festival

[glow worm]

How on earth can ANY protester possibly put British farmers anywhere remotely in the same farming category as what I have just seen on another farming website. It was posted from a farmers wife from an article she had seen from AnimalQuality.org and at first i thought, here we go again but it was SO horrific that I was moved to tears after the first picture and paragraph and couldn't look at any more. I got my OH to check it out as I was convinced it just had to be fake news. He struggled to watch it, said it was the worst thing he had ever seen but checked out the background and it's all too real. Thousands of stock hacked to death, calves as well, where they fed, in Peru, littering the paddocks as far as the eyes could see in the name of religion. Maybe its common knowledge to members of this forum and I am just too sheltered and busy with our herd to spend hours on the internet to see such things but why the **** is the world not up in arms about such cruelty?

 

[egbert]

I'd never heard of it....weird how some people allow religion to build into such a thing.
(it is a religious festival in Nepal, culminating in the ritual slaughter of thousands of animals in a walled enclosure)

PETA don't seem to have much hold there.

 

[Doc]

Wiki says it’s in Nepal, it also says that the animal sacrifice bit has stopped.

 

[wr.]

This is where peta and their ilk need to be. Where is that veganguy w4nk3r now? Get out there and do something about that.

 

[Farfrae]

Gadhimal festival is in Nepal and takes place every 5 years. There are smaller animal sacrifices every week at some temples to which I have been. The Nepalese courts have directed the relevant agencies to create an action plan to discourage and eventually end animal sacrifice at Gadhimai and elsewhere in the country.

Perhaps the question is why are made up stories about deities given a 'free ride'? Is it any worse than Catholic priests abusing young boys or Irish nuns operating the Magdalene launderies and the grounds thereof being littered with the dead bodies of children?

The Cover-Up at High Park Magdalene Laundry

The faces of the past always comes back to haunt us, the past must not be easily forgotten. And please let’s be clear these Women and Children were murdered, why else would the Nuns dispose of the dead through cremation, the 155 newly discovered bodies of

www.tuambabies.org

 

[egbert]

Wiki says it’s in Nepal, it also says that the animal sacrifice bit has stopped.

still very much ongoing, albeit under pressure to reduce

 

[nick...]

I’ve seen this on Facebook last night.its utterly horrific.
Nick...

 

[som farmer]

different theme, watched on u tube, trapping beaver, coyotes etc, made me feel bad, and I don't usually feel like that about vermin ! That is where I would actually respect the vegans, if they went over there to protest about it. But they won't, and why ? They are to scared, other countries do not give them the freedom to protest, like the uk. So they attack the easy target - us, just bullies really.

 

[glow worm]

still very much ongoing, albeit under pressure to reduce

Apparently they banned any filming of it but, again apparently, the filmed bits were done with an 'illegal' drone. OH found a report that said some cattle are brought over from China, where cows are 'sacred!'

 

[egbert]

Apparently they banned any filming of it but, again apparently, the filmed bits were done with an 'illegal' drone. OH found a report that said some cattle are brought over from China, where cows are 'sacred!'

looks like they prefer buffalo, as they're not sacred cattle...

 

[Exfarmer]

Its India where cattle are sacred to the Hindu population. The Chinese will just about eat anything and some of their slaughter methods leave a lot to be desired

 

[egbert]

Its India where cattle are sacred to the Hindu population. The Chinese will just about eat anything and some of their slaughter methods leave a lot to be desired

here you go, copied from New York Times site
'Hindu pilgrims have long made it a point to come witness the slaughter. (Though killing cows, a sacred animal to Hindus, is prohibited in parts of India and Nepal, slaughtering water buffalo does not carry the same taboo.)'

 

[David.]

SImilar to the scene in Apocalypse Now, Kurtz's hideout and water buffalo beheaded with long handled knife?
To be honest it looks like two blows is about average to sever the spinal column and kill the animal.
Whilst to our eyes it looks like carnage, it nonetheless looks a cleaner death than that suffered by thousands of animals *in this country* by schechita, wherein an unstunned beast will routinely suffer two or three minutes of trying to breathe through a severed trachea, and choking on it's own blood, before it finally loses consciousness and then dies.
Watch the Youtube footage filmed at the Kosher Agriprocessors plant in Iowa, if the establishment have not got it removed, and tell me that it is any less brutally inhumane.

 

[delilah]

I am always wary of criticizing what happens in other countries for two reasons:
- The same was happening yesterday, on an evolutionary timeframe, in the UK. Poleaxing, ritual slaughter. All yesterday in the scheme of things.
- You can call what happens abroad today 'horrific'. Vegans call what happens in the UK today 'horrific'. Who is to say that they are wrong when they say that tomorrow we will look back at what we do today and wonder how it was ever thus ?

 

[Av Gorritt]

I'm always a bit diffident about posting happenings elsewhere in the world . What , to us is rank cruelty , to others is normal routine . I was once in a covered market arcade in China , where there was an open gutter running down the middle of the alleyway running with blood . There were a few butcher's stalls there with nicely prepared (- skinned , gutted etc, ) dogs , all much of a size -Grid ? , and obviously bred for the table . I have to say that if you could put away thoughts of dogs as pets , then the display looked attractive . Different cultures, different standards !. I just daren't think what would be made of that in this country ( Vegans or otherwise )

 

[Exfarmer]

Vietnam takes cruelty to another level
gasping fish is a dish, where a live fish has its jaws forced open with a cocktail stick
a thread is attached to this stick and by this , the fish is lowered very carefully into boiling oil up to its gills
the art is to deliver the fish to the diner still alive while the flesh is cooked.

 

[glow worm]

Vietnam takes cruelty to another level
gasping fish is a dish, where a live fish has its jaws forced open with a cocktail stick
a thread is attached to this stick and by this , the fish is lowered very carefully into boiling oil up to its gills
the art is to deliver the fish to the diner still alive while the flesh is cooked.

Unbelievable. I wonder how many tourists know this and how many vegetarians eat fish whilst on holiday there.

 

[som farmer]

Unbelievable. I wonder how many tourists know this and how many vegetarians eat fish whilst on holiday there.

I wonder how many tourists care, apart from a small percentage of gen public, and most farmers, I often wonder how many realy do care.

 

[Exfarmer]

In the Royal palace at Hue is a very large brass cooking pot at least 6 feet deep. If you offended the king you would be cooked alive in boiling oil. The rate of lowering you into the oil depended on how bad the offence was, or if you had managed to bribe the executioner.

 

[Jerry]

I wonder how many tourists care, apart from a small percentage of gen public, and most farmers, I often wonder how many realy do care.

I think fish really have a raw deal. No pun intended.

Just look at how they are handled on commercial fishing boats.

if they are not suffocated before landing they are often gutted whilst alive.