Gareth wyn Jones, ( the milkman ep 2 )

[banjo]

not sure if anyone has put this up already but I only just watched this episode tonight ( recorded ) as I've said before, very well done program, nearer the end some very sad moments on one farm and if some are thinking if expanding, it would be wise to watch it.
Supermarkets

 

[Old Boar]

I have been thinking about this. I dont milk so forgive me if I make a basic error. From what was said, Tesco treat their farms OK, while the big boys (Muller?) who buy in bulk and then provide a variety of outlets are the ones paying below COP. So if we all started buying milk from the supermarkets who had good contracts with farmers, and not from those who bought from the bulk guys, what would happen? I remember seeing a spreadsheet at one time on who was paying what, but would the bulk guys just refuse to take the milk or would they be shown that we care for small farms and all that that involves?

 

[JP1]

Nice to see Dr Rickard and his designer glasses




















Not

 

[Ali_Maxxum]

I have been thinking about this. I dont milk so forgive me if I make a basic error. From what was said, Tesco treat their farms OK, while the big boys (Muller?) who buy in bulk and then provide a variety of outlets are the ones paying below COP. So if we all started buying milk from the supermarkets who had good contracts with farmers, and not from those who bought from the bulk guys, what would happen? I remember seeing a spreadsheet at one time on who was paying what, but would the bulk guys just refuse to take the milk or would they be shown that we care for small farms and all that that involves?

I could only imagine they would cut contracts due to 'lack of demand' which would then leave the ones with Muller with absolutely nobody at all. I'm sure they'd sooner stop it and find something else to do than match the 'good ones'....

Absolute cut throat industry and it's really disheartening to see, I admire anybody who keeps driving at it though.

 

[banjo]

I agree with your replys, it's a hell of a cutthroat buisness and personally I wouldn't be investing into it as if is.
The daft thing from looking in as an outsider is, why are the supermarkets putting their suppliers in such a difficult position for not a huge price increace. Just listening to the people talking it seems that if a price of 25p per litre was standard it would be OK, it's only a 5 p rise, is that correct?
There are some big Dairys doing well by the look of it, but at the drop of a hat that can change and your screwed, sad and worrying position to be in.

 

[Still Farming]

Good one Gareth.
On every week.
Next week direct sales .

 

[Chasingmytail]

I like farming programmes but struggle with seeing negative stuff these days I find it triggers madness and frustration in me and saddens me and at this moment I feel a little fragile to watch anything else that shows the unfairness in this global world. Good boy Gareth does a lot of good.

 

[banjo]

I think next weeks program will be interesting. The aproach of making icecreams and other things would work for some, but it's like a lot of things in farming, the market gets crowded and your back to square one after a few years.
It needs the milk price sorting out, that's the key to it all. They have the markets for the product, supermarkets just need to be fair with the producers and everyone will be happy.

( just adding to this, the farmers Union is a union for farmers, what do they have to say about one company paying well and the other putting its union members out of buisness for supermarket profit )
Ive followed this forum for years and you rarely hear a tickety boo from them on here about the subject, very odd!

 

[endeavour]

Over all a good programme but GWJ was let down by his researchers for the wind could have been taken out of Tesco sails by asking " Does COP+ relate to your other dairy products butter cheese etc and if not why not?
They through aggressive lowest price policy for these products have created the cavernous divide between the aligned contracts and all other manufacturing contracts. Tell the full story do not try to fool farmers and public that you are gentlemen. Hope GWJ gets a chance to review and question them again.

 

[Philip Watkins]

Would the new member @1GarethWynJones be the man himself?

 

[Forever Fendt]

Over all a good programme but GWJ was let down by his researchers for the wind could have been taken out of Tesco sails by asking " Does COP+ relate to your other dairy products butter cheese etc and if not why not?
They through aggressive lowest price policy for these products have created the cavernous divide between the aligned contracts and all other manufacturing contracts. Tell the full story do not try to fool farmers and public that you are gentlemen. Hope GWJ gets a chance to review and question them again.

All sounded good but i struggle to believe a company that can lie about its profits and sell horse meat as beef

 

[Riverblue]

Would the new member @1GarethWynJones be the man himself?

Probably is. Know we was trying to join TFF today as I have been on facebook with him this morning and evening.

 

[1GarethWynJones]

Hello I am GWJ not sure about the man himself [emoji12]

 

[Riverblue]

Croeso in Madhouse!!!

 

[Princess Pooper]

I have been thinking about this. I dont milk so forgive me if I make a basic error. From what was said, Tesco treat their farms OK, while the big boys (Muller?) who buy in bulk and then provide a variety of outlets are the ones paying below COP. So if we all started buying milk from the supermarkets who had good contracts with farmers, and not from those who bought from the bulk guys, what would happen? I remember seeing a spreadsheet at one time on who was paying what, but would the bulk guys just refuse to take the milk or would they be shown that we care for small farms and all that that involves?

Please don't forget that only approximately 50% of milk produced in the UK goes into the liquid market. What about the cheese, yoghurt, butter and other products?

 

[1GarethWynJones]

You'll see a lot more in episode 3 [emoji106]

 

[Juggler]

Hello I am GWJ not sure about the man himself [emoji12]

Duw sud mai? Croeso!

 

[GTB]

Croeso Gareth.

 

[Philip Watkins]

Hello I am GWJ not sure about the man himself [emoji12]

Welcome on board. It's a bit of a mad house sometimes, especially if you wander down into the Off Topic section.

 

[1GarethWynJones]

Diolch