Gator cost

hally

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Livestock Farmer
Location
cumbria
One some different footwear might not be such an issue? I've seen landrovers on LGP tyres before.
Our place gets that wet in the winter our old gators used to make a mess and struggle, so anything heavier than 750kg would be a non starter. Come to the conclusion our best option is a quad and some decent winter clothing and tow it about with a pickup to outlying land.
 

Robt

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Location
Suffolk
Tbh im not so sure, the pickups ive had have never been much cop off road regardless of what tyres i fit despite them being a ton lighter than a landcruiser. i think its partly the drivetrain, which isnt proper permanent 4x4 and usually only 1 diff lock if your lucky (3 diff locks on an 80 series), and partly because you cant fit big tyres on a pickup without serious modification. narrowish 31.5" is the biggest i managed to fit on a hilux without problems. im sure a defender would be fine on decent rubber though.
In my Velcourt days we had a couple of n reg hilux on steel wheels and normally 50/50 tyres. Never ever got them stuck even on over irrigated fields. They had narrow tyres poss 17” I think . Very little power but out in low and locked they went everywhere
 

dave mountain

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Livestock Farmer
In my Velcourt days we had a couple of n reg hilux on steel wheels and normally 50/50 tyres. Never ever got them stuck even on over irrigated fields. They had narrow tyres poss 17” I think . Very little power but out in low and locked they went everywhere
that will be a mk4 with manual front lockers? they are far far better off road than any of the new pickups. probably a 2.4 n/a they were slow AF, absolutely bombproof though

in fairness i suggested a mk4 hilux at the very start of the thread ;)
 
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Poorbuthappy

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
In my Velcourt days we had a couple of n reg hilux on steel wheels and normally 50/50 tyres. Never ever got them stuck even on over irrigated fields. They had narrow tyres poss 17” I think . Very little power but out in low and locked they went everywhere
"Over irrigated fields " 🤣

There speaks someone in a different world to a lot of us on this thread 🤣
 

tr250

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Location
Northants
Its a classic case of up selling when Honda trikes came out they where around £350.00 , they ultimately became big red shaft drive electric start etc £1500.00 then quads , then 4x4 quad then 500cc 4x4 quad then quad with power steering then gators , then gator with cab then with cab and diesel , then alloy wheels etc etc.
They do the same job in accessing land but the expectations are much higher, granted allot of years have passed buy since the inception of an ATV but also so have the expectations of what they are.
Think my dad would soon tell us to stick the sheparding if we sent his round with a 3 wheeler 🤣
 

tr250

Member
Location
Northants
guessing your defender isnt on 37 inch mud terrains then 😂 theres not many places my cruisers cant get and theyre only on 33 inch mud terrains and no modifications. still cruises down the a30 at 90mph comfortably which you cant do with a UTV (or defender actually) either 😂😂
if money were no object a UTV would be handy but they dont last long enough IMO
I’m sure your land cruiser is great and I’m sure it will get anywhere a gator will but it will make one hell of a lot more mess that’s the reason we have a Polaris
 

Wood field

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Livestock Farmer
Wouldn’t know really we’ve only got a pickup on road tyres to compare it to but that is completely hopeless.
Our defender is on mud terrain tyres but then you have the noise and lack of grip on the roads
The utv even the old kioti will find grip even on wet steep ground, added to that it’s got both difflock and four wheel drive it beats our Land Rover hands down
Both have there place and without doubt utv’s are strong money
Personally, I’ve no interest in tractors or flash cars so the utv is my “ daily farm driver”
Maybe it’s a bit of a treat but I am of an age where I want to make the farm easier to work and the buggy helps me no end
 

tr250

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Location
Northants
Our defender is on mud terrain tyres but then you have the noise and lack of grip on the roads
The utv even the old kioti will find grip even on wet steep ground, added to that it’s got both difflock and four wheel drive it beats our Land Rover hands down
Both have there place and without doubt utv’s are strong money
Personally, I’ve no interest in tractors or flash cars so the utv is my “ daily farm driver”
Maybe it’s a bit of a treat but I am of an age where I want to make the farm easier to work and the buggy helps me no end
Yes my dads 80 he has a Polaris because he likes it being automatic and it’s easy to get into. He has considered a converted Suzuki jimney but isn’t so keen on going to a petrol or manual box
 

Al R

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Livestock Farmer
Location
West Wales
Yes got the meshed version of the canopy, brilliant visibility
Good lad 👍🏻
I was at 6 junctions earlier on the road where I wouldn’t have been able to see if a car was coming if I had solid sides.

In those strong winds a few weeks ago I wouldn’t have wanted to go out with solid sides incase it ripped off or altered the stability at speed etc.
I tend to run with 1 door open unless dogs /sheep are getting in it, always got cordless drill, fencing bucket, spare battery and fencer on me at all times now 👍🏻
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dave mountain

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Livestock Farmer
I’m sure your land cruiser is great and I’m sure it will get anywhere a gator will but it will make one hell of a lot more mess that’s the reason we have a Polaris
it probably wont go everywhere a gator will, but for those few places theres always the quad/tractor. more than one way to skin a cat, and the cruiser is a lot cheaper to buy and run and a whole lot more useful to me than a UTV. Seems mental to me that a UTV costs the same as a brand new pick up. especially when a fully loaded top spec utv still has far less spec than even the most poverty spec 25 year old pickup. Especially considering the UTV wont last anything like as long and will eat through a lot more parts, which are also very expensive.
 

Al R

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
West Wales
it probably wont go everywhere a gator will, but for those few places theres always the quad/tractor. more than one way to skin a cat, and the cruiser is a lot cheaper to buy and run and a whole lot more useful to me than a UTV.
All depends how spread out the land is too, we use the quad on the home farm and tend to use the Polaris further afield, have a block 8 mile away that needed a few batteries changing today down on moorland/heavy/wet ground which the closest fencer was 500 metres from anything hard I’d take the pickup on, Polaris went there fully equipped with dogs etc, moved sheep/ changed batteries and left again without making a mess and on 8 mile it’s 3 minutes slower than the pickup.
 

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