General Election

[spin cycle]

all of the islands ,shetland ,orkeney etc all voted overwheminly for brexit,11 of the snp seats voted for brexeit,plus then there are a lot of people who dont want indyref 2,so losing upto 10 seats is entirly possible

it is a fascinating election for geeks like me

what about labour /snp fighting it out when realistically they'd need to be in coalition at westminster to stop tories
would lib dems go into coalition with tories again after last mauling ...or would they go in witrh labour/snp

 

[phillipe]

it is a fascinating election for geeks like me

what about labour /snp fighting it out when realistically they'd need to be in coalition at westminster to stop tories
would lib dems go into coalition with tories again after last mauling ...or would they go in witrh labour/snp

tories will have at least a 70 seat majority,labour will get mullered ,libdems stay the same,snp will lose a few

 

[spin cycle]

tories will have at least a 70 seat majority,labour will get mullered ,libdems stay the same,snp will lose a few

i'm not so sure

 

[DeeGee]

Whatever their political allegiance most would admit that it cannot be good for any government of whatever hue to have no credible opposition. But unfortunately such is the case in present times.

 

[phillipe]

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so who are going to take seats of the tories? labour not a chance ,the christian values of tim farron ?,snp can only gain3 or lose plenty,not ukip , so i really would not be suprised to see a 100 seat majority

 

[ThatsSomeSheep]

all of the islands ,shetland ,orkeney etc all voted overwheminly for brexit,11 of the snp seats voted for brexeit,plus then there are a lot of people who dont want indyref 2,so losing upto 10 seats is entirly possible

Not sure where your Brexit info comes from? As far as I understand every area of Scotland, including Orkney, Shetland etc voted against Brexit.

TSS

 

[phillipe]

Not sure where your Brexit info comes from? As far as I understand every area of Scotland, including Orkney, Shetland etc voted against Brexit.

you are correct i have been mis informed, scottish brexit result 1.6 million remain 1.1 million leave

 

[Alf]

tories will have at least a 70 seat majority,labour will get mullered ,libdems stay the same,snp will lose a few

Well I hope so . In a dream world the SNP will lose more

 

[phillipe]

Well I hope so . In a dream world the SNP will lose more

well you have the chance

 

[Alf]

well you have the chance

Fingers crossed

 

[Jackson4]

Well at a GE my vote is worth diddly-squat, Jon Trickett will get in to represent me whereas in a referendum it does count.
MPs are going to be voting as to wether or not they want to call a GE and will need a 2/3 majority because the issue is of "National Importance" the same should have applied to the Brexit referendum, unless of course it was of little significance and not "Nationally Important" ?

Look, the probable reason its set at two thirds is because all governments will/have had a majority bar one ie over 50% of the MP's already as their starting position, so that extra support is needed.. a referendum is from a position of zero.

 

[jendan]

Those interviewers are prats. Trying to trip up people with there stupid questioning and then reporting what was said out of context!

It was ever thus! Thats the whole point for the media/newspapers.Politicians have got to be sharper than their interviewers,or they dont stay politicians for long.May is not very good at this,thats why she wont take part in live TV debates.She cant think on her feet,and has to have everything written down and meticulously prepared before hand.

 

[PSQ]

My local SNP MP is a worried man. He's been bleating recently that despite the 66.6% 'No' vote in the Borders he still has a responsibility to seek independence for Scotland. Having played that hand and with Sturgeon saying this election is about IndyRef2, he suddenly now has to defend his 328 vote majority at the next election. From his Facebook posts he's clearly bricking it, sucking up to anyone who'll give him the time of day.

This is going to be interesting...

 

[Old Boar]

In April, May called an election for June. She missed a trick not calling for one in May - think of all the free publicity - name on Calendars, diaries, pooter screens, everywhere!

 

[Jackson4]

I try my utmost to be true to my word, and wouldn't employ absolutes when there was a possibility I couldn't pull it off. If I failed at this, I wouldn't be able to say I simply changed my mind.

How about you?

You dont live in the real world if you cant do what you want when you want, and i thought people wanted politicians to be normal?? all this axe to grind baby talk (kuenssberg) talking U turns?... she is giving the worldly wise important people like yourself the ability to sack her.. what have you to wail about?

 

[Jackson4]

It was ever thus! Thats the whole point for the media/newspapers.Politicians have got to be sharper than their interviewers,or they dont stay politicians for long.May is not very good at this,thats why she wont take part in live TV debates.She cant think on her feet,and has to have everything written down and meticulously prepared before hand.

hmm.. whenever i see her on pmq's its corbyn mubling his lines or robertson stumbling and rereading his lines or dim farron rembering his silly they'll do this soundbites, i'm sorry it sounds like your prejudice talking cause she hardly reads a note. As for the TV debates.. does she need to sling mud with the rest of them?

 

[Old McDonald]

if and there is a possibilty that the snp loses a few seats say7 will that be an endorsment of brexit and the krankies failure

You are asking for a personal opinion. I do not profess to be a political pundit, but my opinion is No.

For the SNP, and the FM in particular, to fail would, again in my personal opinion, need many more seats to be lost. They had only 6 before the 2015 GE and 56 afterwards. I doubt if any party anywhere in the world has had such outstanding gains. It can reasonably considered an exceptional and not to be repeated performance by any party. UKIP could do it very easily of course. The number of people who voted for UKIP at the last election was far in excess of the LibDems.

Say SNP lose 80% of their seats and drop back to 12. Rough maths, not precise. That still leaves them with double the number they had 3 years ago. No other party will have double the number of seats they had in the 2010 GE. On that measure a loss of 44 seats means the SNP is far more successful than in the 2010 GE.

I feel that Nicola Sturgeon is, and allegedly has been from a very young age, a misguided intelligent lady in pursuing Scottish Independence from the UK as her sole object in life. I am of Scottish descent, and consider that it will be the ruination of the land of my ancestors to break away from rUK at this point in time. 50 years ago I would have said differently, and not because I was young, but because Scotland was a thriving country then. Now, under 10 yrs (?) of SNP rule it seems to be failing economically. That is what matters to the people of Scotland - an economically successful nation and I cannot see it happening under the present SNP policy of Independence at any cost.

At this stage my wife and I still intend to end our days there. She fills in a €uromillions ticket every week and picks out a place for us to buy. The present choice is close to the Castle of Mey. Wherever it is it will be above the Highland Line. We sincerely hope that the SNP does not ruin Scotland in the meantime.

 

[Old McDonald]

I humbly apologise for any offense caused to any haggis who may be reading this post.

We dread this time of year remembering that:

The haggis season has begun
All over Scotland every gun
Is taken down with loving care
Though some prefer the haggis snare

Unfortunately the usual Google search gives a very poor YouTube or other explanations of the story.

 

[Jackson4]

The thing is this the argument in the final say will be hinged on .. would you trust a coalition of labour/libs in coalition with the trouble making SNP to set the countries future for decades to come? or a maggie 2 patriotic brit who will stand up for fairness over any threats or arrogance against our country?

This is essentially why the snap election has been called, forget marginal seats, forget the misfortunes of labour, remain voting lib.. the labour in bed with the snp last time round swung it to the tories. When it comes down to it she knows that SNP and EU commission trouble making has played into her hands and will bring the choice back to her. The GE will all be about patriotism in the last week as that will rouse the electorate and the emotions are stronger than reason, though i think reason is on her side anyway.
The 1st of June all you will hear is 'do you want nicola sturgeon as your puppet master??

I didnt think i'd think muchof her for her bureaucratic tone/nice vicars daughter way but this kind of stand up to older brothers/ sing the loudest in the play type theatrics with plenty of bite is better than the usual insipid faring.

Dont think much will change cept scots nats lose a few seats, labour lose a few, lib dems wont gain anything because they are as as much worth as ukip.. brexit is irreversable so you can go get other jobs.. remainers who arent traditional labour will vote labour for soft brexit and traditional labour for brexit may vote tory to get rid of corbyn, or not vote, though a risk of giving tories a massive majority. If they could get corbyn out and any new face in the tories would worry. Unlikely.
Favourite post of the week.. Theresa May always looks like she just been dug up.

 

[Dave6170]

You are asking for a personal opinion. I do not profess to be a political pundit, but my opinion is No.

For the SNP, and the FM in particular, to fail would, again in my personal opinion, need many more seats to be lost. They had only 6 before the 2015 GE and 56 afterwards. I doubt if any party anywhere in the world has had such outstanding gains. It can reasonably considered an exceptional and not to be repeated performance by any party. UKIP could do it very easily of course. The number of people who voted for UKIP at the last election was far in excess of the LibDems.

Say SNP lose 80% of their seats and drop back to 12. Rough maths, not precise. That still leaves them with double the number they had 3 years ago. No other party will have double the number of seats they had in the 2010 GE. On that measure a loss of 44 seats means the SNP is far more successful than in the 2010 GE.

I feel that Nicola Sturgeon is, and allegedly has been from a very young age, a misguided intelligent lady in pursuing Scottish Independence from the UK as her sole object in life. I am of Scottish descent, and consider that it will be the ruination of the land of my ancestors to break away from rUK at this point in time. 50 years ago I would have said differently, and not because I was young, but because Scotland was a thriving country then. Now, under 10 yrs (?) of SNP rule it seems to be failing economically. That is what matters to the people of Scotland - an economically successful nation and I cannot see it happening under the present SNP policy of Independence at any cost.

At this stage my wife and I still intend to end our days there. She fills in a €uromillions ticket every week and picks out a place for us to buy. The present choice is close to the Castle of Mey. Wherever it is it will be above the Highland Line. We sincerely hope that the SNP does not ruin Scotland in the meantime.

You would be very welcome here but the snp are making a pretty good job of ruining this place as well! With their centralisation agenda