General Election

[arbel]

Looks the opposite to me actually. I think she is going to the country expecting to get an overwhelming majority in the house. Enough of a majority and more besides to basically negotiate the softest possible Brexit deal. We are looking I'm afraid at being outside the EU but at the same time so tied into its rules and regulations that nothing will have changed in reality.
Topping it all now is soundings from USA that it will engage seriously with EU to sign a trade deal in preference to any such deal with UK.

We will have to wait and see. My bet is on a Brexit that suits the UK and not any fudge. As a totally committed Brexiteer, it can be as hard an exit as it needs to be to go it alone. So far, TM has not disappointed.

 

[Jackson4]

Looks the opposite to me actually. I think she is going to the country expecting to get an overwhelming majority in the house. Enough of a majority and more besides to basically negotiate the softest possible Brexit deal. We are looking I'm afraid at being outside the EU but at the same time so tied into its rules and regulations that nothing will have changed in reality.
Topping it all now is soundings from USA that it will engage seriously with EU to sign a trade deal in preference to any such deal with UK.

Im not sure she'll get a massive majority basically because the 'vote for labour cause grandad would turn in his grave otherwise' from the coal/steel/shipping areas etc still thinking about Maggie Thatcher nearly 40 years on wont ever vote tory, so its just the marginal seats.. Unless i'm completely wrong and labour leavers shift to tories as a one off vote to make sure Corbyn is gone. I cant see them wanting to give the cons that many seats though. Corbyn will surely have to go anyway if labour is defeated wont he?

As for the EU, i'm not sure why our regs and spec cant be slightly different to the EU's.. a lot of the aus and nz lamb will have had virtually non of the rules and regs covering it what we have had here. We need to hold those in charge to account, if its one rule for one and not for another we in ag need to be saying so. There is discretion on which rules and the use of subsidies to a point, at the individual country level now, our civil servants just like to pick the hardest ones.. we need to be making a case for it to be easier for uk farmers.

Trade deals are only good if they work both ways and i'd be a bit nervous of an ag deal with America working for us. Protectionism has helped us farmers imo. Which trade deal?

Edit: Just googled it and out came some BS as usual from the Independant which is about as impartial a paper as the bbc is a broadcaster.. lots of 'claimed' some sneering words of 'back of the cue' made up by the author.. its basically sneer at you brexiteers who welcomed may meeting trump well they have put the EU first sneer sneer. Similar will be in your scot nats papers, the guardian and huffington post soon enough.
In reality it looks to be about the ttip deal that went tits up, so no new deal.

 

[Muck Spreader]

What happens if the voters in TM's constituency vote along referendum rather than political party lines, she could find herself out of a job as Zac Goldsmith found to his cost.

 

[Henarar]

What happens if the voters in TM's constituency vote along referendum rather than political party lines, she could find herself out of a job as Zac Goldsmith found to his cost.

What did her constituency vote leave ?

 

[Muck Spreader]

What did her constituency vote leave ?

Remain

 

[Osca]

But why would they? Brexit wasn't a party political vote - except perhaps in Scotland. This is. Voting for a non-Conservative candidate won't make a difference as to whether or not Brexit happens.

 

[The Donald]

What happens if the voters in TM's constituency vote along referendum rather than political party lines, she could find herself out of a job as Zac Goldsmith found to his cost.

There's a huge incentive for remainers and younger voters who didn't vote in the referendum to get out there now and cause problems for some high profile candidates!
Brexit voters were motivated at referendum time and maximised their vote. Remainers and younger took the result for granted and didn't vote. There could well be a sting in the tail this time around!!! Voters are ever more unpredictable these days.

 

[orchard]

Lib-dem's might mate, and there's a fair chance every other party would be more democratic regarding the terms.

But why would they? Brexit wasn't a party political vote - except perhaps in Scotland. This is. Voting for a non-Conservative candidate won't make a difference as to whether or not Brexit happens.

 

[arbel]

There's a huge incentive for remainers and younger voters who didn't vote in the referendum to get out there now and cause problems for some high profile candidates!
Brexit voters were motivated at referendum time and maximised their vote. Remainers and younger took the result for granted and didn't vote. There could well be a sting in the tail this time around!!! Voters are ever more unpredictable these days.

We have invoked Article 50. There is no turning back. Best we all now sit tight and see what the results are after June 8th. No doubt we will have a seven week lead up with lots of scaremongering; the BBC with its nose in the Remain trough, along with the Telegraph.

The election results may surprise us all. Interesting times!

 

[bovrill]

Just googled it and out came some BS as usual from the Independant which is about as impartial a paper as the bbc is a broadcaster
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I thought the Independent was one of those spoof joke websites now. Surely it's not actually claiming to be a legitimate news source any more, is it?

 

[Osca]

Lib-dem's might mate, and there's a fair chance every other party would be more democratic regarding the terms.

Lib-dems might mate? With other Lib-dems, you mean? I wouldn't be surprised if they do, but I don't suppose it is relevant; except to them, of course.

I think the alternative parties would be far LESS democratic, given their problems digesting the result of democratic vote, not long ago...

 

[Osca]

...though I suppose if they can delay Brexit long enough, the Lib-Dems might manage to out-breed the Conservatives and get a clear majority... Do you think that's their policy?

 

[Jackson4]

There's a huge incentive for remainers and younger voters who didn't vote in the referendum to get out there now and cause problems for some high profile candidates!
Brexit voters were motivated at referendum time and maximised their vote. Remainers and younger took the result for granted and didn't vote. There could well be a sting in the tail this time around!!! Voters are ever more unpredictable these days.

Yes got to have some balls to call a GE, sh!t or bust i guess, the big prize, easier passage next 3 years, Sturgeon, Corbyn and Farron exposed one way or another.. hope opinion polls for corbyn/farron match the result, and the decline of standards and local services under SNP's watch and divisive nature of another referendum etc will put her back in her box.
I think any other result than a tory majority would be chaos Brexit wise, best thing they can do is keep their mouths shut, they are their own worst enemy.

 

[Jackson4]

What's a "seed change"

Its what you do if someone dobs you in for home saved seed.

 

[Old McDonald]

Remain

That means they did vote along party political lines in the referendum. So, logically, if they vote along referendum lines they also vote along Tory party political lines in the GE.

 

[Old McDonald]

Remainers and younger took the result for granted and didn't vote.

Nobody, but nobody, knows how any person voted. It is a secret ballot, and whilst some are stopped on the way out and asked how they voted, there is no guarantee they will tell the truth.

Nobody knows either the age groups of those who voted and those who did not. There is no possible way of anyone acquiring this information.

 

[Penmoel]

Nobody, but nobody, knows how any person voted. It is a secret ballot, and whilst some are stopped on the way out and asked how they voted, there is no guarantee they will tell the truth.

Nobody knows either the age groups of those who voted and those who did not. There is no possible way of anyone acquiring this information.

I used to believe that but its not true. Here the clerk's look for your name on the register, against which there is a number, this number is then written on the voting slip before handing it to you, so how you voted is traceable. It is not a secret ballot!!!!!

 

[The Donald]

Nobody, but nobody, knows how any person voted. It is a secret ballot, and whilst some are stopped on the way out and asked how they voted, there is no guarantee they will tell the truth.

Nobody knows either the age groups of those who voted and those who did not. There is no possible way of anyone acquiring this information.

Come off it!!! Not even Farage expected to win. Even up to the very last hour or two of the count.
There's no doubt but that apathy and over confidence amongst the younger voters allowed a Brexit win. Brexit voters were far more motivated on the day.
Was at a family reunion recently and of course all the younger generation was there. Different folks in different professions and jobs and college/school etc. Not at all happy about Brexit I have to say.

 

[czechmate]

Come off it!!! Not even Farage expected to win. Even up to the very last hour or two of the count.
There's no doubt but that apathy and over confidence amongst the younger voters allowed a Brexit win. Brexit voters were far more motivated on the day.
Was at a family reunion recently and of course all the younger generation was there. Different folks in different professions and jobs and college/school etc. Not at all happy about Brexit I have to say.

This is the sad reality

 

[Henarar]

This is the sad reality

should have got of their bloody lazy arses then and gone an voted, if this is the case and not a bulls**t excuse then they didn't deserve to win the vote, lazy buggers