General public and neighbours

[Dry Rot]

our local tractor place, harold johns,has been dealing for years from botany bay, i grew up on the same road,now a retired policeman moved in and errected at his own costs signs saying not suitable for hgv,no planning no notice just put them up,now harold being harold as many of you might know removed signs and threatened ex copper to stick the signs where the sun dont shine,harold is 80 and just had triple bypass,wish i was there to see that

There are not many advantages to getting old, except one. We really don't care any more. After all, what are they going to do to us? Kill us? Better be quick or Nature will beat them to it!

As I get older (77 shortly), I get more and more convinced that we oldies have a duty to become like Victor Meldrew and complain when the young get it wrong......or when they bend the rules to suit themselves or to oblige their mates. And that applies particularly to the petty officials (police included) who abuse their authority. They work for us, not the other way around, and we pay their wages and expenses through taxation.

 

[Grassman]

Simple really. Don't give them ammunition in the first place. Why is the slurry tanker leaking? Surely cheaper to sort it than get the neighbours backs up. Always clean up mud ASAP.
You can't fight fire with fire. Try and get some locals on your side. Let the kids have a sit in the tractor etc.
And if all that fails mention to her that if you can't carry on farming without hassle then the site may be suitable for fracking or building!

 

[Fleeced]

If you're not making a mess of the road you have nothing to worry about. If you are making a mess of a public road you should either clear it up or be responsible for the cost of the council doing so.
Why do some farmers think they can abuse public property? Not saying the OP does but clearly some respondents do. Treat people as you wish to be treated yourself.

 

[RedMerle]

Nothing to do with it. If you make a mess on the road clear it up, just common courtesy.

Also it's a road traffic offence to deposit mud on the road and fail to clear it up.

I have googled it for everyone's convenience

http://www.thrings.com/site/news_events/thrings_news/mud_on_the_roads.html

 

[holywell farmer]

Simple really. Don't give them ammunition in the first place. Why is the slurry tanker leaking? Surely cheaper to sort it than get the neighbours backs up. Always clean up mud ASAP.
You can't fight fire with fire. Try and get some locals on your side. Let the kids have a sit in the tractor etc.
And if all that fails mention to her that if you can't carry on farming without hassle then the site may be suitable for fracking or building!

No good tanker leaking slurry over the road,,,,

 

[Grassman]

No good tanker leaking slurry over the road,,,,

Exactly. If someone had one leaking outside my house I wouldn't be happy.

 

[Alicecow]

If she keeps coming out at you and your workers you could report her for harassment or public order offences, just make sure you are on public property or, even better, your property (be it owned, rented or leased).

 

[Welsh Farmer]

Ignore her and stay within the law with your everyday activities.
The authorities will soon sicken of following up the complaints.
Never ever rise to the bait.

Good advice imo

Years ago when we moved to our present place I had to do a whole change with our operating centre and licence for the three 7.5 lorries we were running. It had to be advertised in the local press and of course predictably the local community council objected . They wrote to the traffic commissioner about narrow, winding, country lanes in addition to all manner of other things that were just made up for the whole effect of stopping us. The site for the wagons was right on the edge of the village with no country lanes at all.

Anyhow .... the whole thing totally backfired on the CC in a massive way because when someone from the traffic dept. came out to check they found that nothing the CC had put in their objection letter was true. The Traffic Commissioner sent a VERY stern letter to the CC about wasting his departments time with lies and told them that as a direct result of their dishonesty he would in the future be ignoring any and all objections they as a CC sent in to his office for any future Operating Centres or Licenses.

 

[joe soapy]

Fix a couple of dash cams to each vehicle and have the sound recording, the £10 ones are quite good.
Be very aware the cops will often ignore any offences against you and focus on the one thing you may commit, they will remove your firearms at the least confrontation, real or imagined.
If you really want to wind the estate up, make a practice of attempting to enter the estate with a very large trailer on a monday morn about the time they leave for work, obviously you wont be able to reverse without a qualified banksman, and townies cars are not fitted with reverse.
Majority of residents will understand and soon bring the complainer into line

 

[Old McDonald]

And that applies particularly to the petty officials (police included) who abuse their authority. They work for us, not the other way around, and we pay their wages and expenses through taxation.

Too true. I had over 20 years on and off in public service, almost all of it at higher levels. I used to enjoy saying to people I was trying to help "You are my employer". I was frequently queried about this, because Joe Public does not believe that he employs public servants.

I also had to occasionaly remind others that the public were their employer. The job title says it all - public service, not "some elected politician's" service.

I suggest everyone treats all public servants as their employee. But be a decent boss, many of your employees are constrained by law as to what they can and cannot do.

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[RedMerle]

Not all public servants abuse their authority the way TFF would sometimes have us believe

 

[topground]

Too true. I had over 20 years on and off in public service, almost all of it at higher levels. I used to enjoy saying to people I was trying to help "You are my employer". I was frequently queried about this, because Joe Public does not believe that he employs public servants.

I also had to occasionaly remind others that the public were their employer. The job title says it all - public service, not "some elected politician's" service.

I suggest everyone treats all public servants as their employee. But be a decent boss, many of your employees are constrained by law as to what they can and cannot do.

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Not all public servants abuse their authority the way TFF would sometimes have us believe

At what point should farmers and landowners in receipt of SFP, Stewardship or other payments from the public purse be considered 'Public Servants'?

 

[Old McDonald]

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At what point should farmers and landowners in receipt of SFP, Stewardship or other payments from the public purse be considered 'Public Servants'?

Never. Only employees can be public servants. Farmers, landowners and anyone else receiving grants from public funds are only being supplemented from these funds and not being totally paid from them, even if a farmer's profit [if any] for the year is what he has received from the public purse.

 

[CORNFLAKE]

Agree with most of the previous comments. Best use your head not your mouth. I am just thinking the bigger picture here, could you not use this situation to your advantage and try and get a better access point off the road which would avoid the need to go through the houses. I bet all the residents would be on your side if it had to go to the planning dept. after all this situation is not going to go away.

 

[glasshouse]

Tell her you need the slurry as you are going organic.
She will then scrape the sh!t up for you, make you coffee and generally think the sun shines out of your arse.

 

[browny823]

She's monitoring it now after I have to explain that tractors don't fly and I have to drive on the road and animals eat and sh!t and they don't do it themselves when there in a building

 

[Nearly]

She's monitoring it now after I have to explain that tractors don't fly and I have to drive on the road and animals eat and sh!t and they don't do it themselves when there in a building

 

[student101]

to cut a long story short I've taken on some land that once belonged to the main farm that's just a house now,the land is accessible through an housing estate bungalows etc on a biggish road I've had loads of complaints since I've taken it on as built a barn a road access in done lots of field work generaly improving the land,so in order to do this I have to drive tractor through the estate daily with muck,bales all that etc.
On sat was moving some slurry and pulled up at gate and this woman come over giving me what for saying its seeping out all over road it was about a shovel full that I pulled in and scraped it up then she was going on about driving tractor on the road and just being a total arse hole videoing me and asking for my name that I just told her to get on that she did and she was there again this morning going on not to me but a lad putting bales in this morning,people like this is what makes the country the way it is and I understand why most farmers don't get on with the public because I'm starting too now.whats best way to deal with them and can they actually do anything as its agricultural land and it's the only way in the road gets a little mucked up but only tire marks not big lumps of shite everywhere as got some stone down now too keep it clean.

Next time you see her tell her you are going to report her for exposing herself to you and making lewd comments , she will soon f**k off.