Genuine parts prices

dowcow

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Lancashire
I remember once buying a full set of flywheel bolts from a Californian Nissan dealership with an online shop offering worldwide shipping, and it costing around the same as a UK dealer would want for a single bolt. And yes, same part numbers, in Nissan branded packaging. When it comes down to flywheels, you definitely don't want to go down the non genuine route anyway.
 

335d

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At the end of the day its up to the seller to fix his/her prices, and charge what they can get away with, cost of production etc has never been relevant, the Iphone is the classic one, though lots extra costs are in the marketing, but it does the same thing as a phone costing 90% less, and often the same components

You ether learn to shop around or assume your very expensive premium brand car must need very expensive premium brand parts, if you are the seller getting 10% of the numpties at full price is more profitable than selling to everyone at 20% of the price, the really clever ones sell the same thing as different brands and "catch " all the market.

You have it in a nutshell, they all charge what they can get away with.
The example above of the track rod end, with Dana charging 50% of the machine manufacturer. £500 is an awful lot of money for a track rod end, and in no way represents the cost of production, shipping, storage, wholesaler margin,dealer margin, etc. They could sell it at £250 and still be making a lot of money.
However, they know the main dealer price and retail their part at 50%, knowing they will sell.

The other favourite quote is referencing the value of product through the machine. Was on here a week ago referencing a part for a fertiliser sower. The dealer/manufacturer tries to make out the part is cheap in relation to the cost of product wasted or damaged. That should have no bearing in the cost of a part, but is just an example of charging what they can get away with.
Good business if you can get away with it.
 

ACEngineering

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Location
Oxon
You have it in a nutshell, they all charge what they can get away with.
The example above of the track rod end, with Dana charging 50% of the machine manufacturer. £500 is an awful lot of money for a track rod end, and in no way represents the cost of production, shipping, storage, wholesaler margin,dealer margin, etc. They could sell it at £250 and still be making a lot of money.
However, they know the main dealer price and retail their part at 50%, knowing they will sell.

The other favourite quote is referencing the value of product through the machine. Was on here a week ago referencing a part for a fertiliser sower. The dealer/manufacturer tries to make out the part is cheap in relation to the cost of product wasted or damaged. That should have no bearing in the cost of a part, but is just an example of charging what they can get away with.
Good business if you can get away with it.

Dana Spicer do not price there parts based on what jcb's prices are😂

Jcb will be buying them track rods off Dana spicer at the dana retail price less there discount which has got to be way more than I get or anyone else in UK imo!

They then add there margin, then they add a dealer margin which will take in to account at least 2 different discounts for VOR orders and stock orders.

Jcb are the ones marking the price up massively, Dana are marking it up based on cost of production and sales volume which is quite low on this track rod I would think.

Slightly different example

Dana Spicer axle on a class 7040, I'm sure class retail was something like £500 plus for track rod, I cross ref the same track rod to a manitou also using a Dana axle and genuine manitou was £100 retail🤷‍♂️
(This was the straight track rod type not the curved ones, must be a serial break on the class as I've done both straight and curved for them 7040's)
 

Fraserb

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Location
Scottish Borders
I remember once buying a full set of flywheel bolts from a Californian Nissan dealership with an online shop offering worldwide shipping, and it costing around the same as a UK dealer would want for a single bolt. And yes, same part numbers, in Nissan branded packaging. When it comes down to flywheels, you definitely don't want to go down the non genuine route anyway.

When I thought I was needing a new front axle for my navara I could get a complete brand new axle ready to bolt on delivered to my door from America for basically half what the local dealer wanted for the bits to repair my axle.
 

Maff123

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I’ve heard a lot of manufacturers work on 3 times cost on spares. The trouble with Claas is if they triple another manufacturers (Kramer) already tripled cost it makes it expensive. I experienced this years ago with Challenger parts.
You could buy 70 series NH parts without the extra tax!
 

Mark C

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Location
Bedfordshire
Forward / reverse switch fir my Manitou truck mounted forklift ...... £185!!!! For a bloody switch. Unfortunately I couldn’t find an alternative and need it it urgently. Robbing gits!!!
 

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dowcow

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Lancashire
A friend had a Honda CR-V high pressure diesel pump fail. Dealer wanted £2.5k for the pump. Mate works at the Honda factory and checked their parts database. Honda pay Bosch about £60 for the pump.

That's just bloody disgusting. Also why is it that so far most the car companies mentioned have been Japanese?

I am wondering if a reason for all the expensive parts is that as soon as the warranty is out you will be encouraged to buy a new one, and if you are running an old one... well it works out cheaper to buy a new one than keep that old thing running.
 

quavers

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Location
aberdeenshire
fermac 860 hydraulic pump £1750 from local dealer , supplied from some one on here who i cant remember right now £1050 , ACE supplied me with some brake discs for a manitou were about the £15 to £18 each the same axle is on claas handlers were about the £35 mark as the guy doing the job mentioned it was the same axle , talking to some one today kv turn over valve £1200 can be had for about the £400 mark .
 

D14

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A friend had a Honda CR-V high pressure diesel pump fail. Dealer wanted £2.5k for the pump. Mate works at the Honda factory and checked their parts database. Honda pay Bosch about £60 for the pump.

Thats one of those parts where the senior bods sit down and make a list of things the car owners cannot do without and its also scary words to some 'high pressure diesel pump fail' to somebody NOT in the know sounds shocking so its easier to justify the high repair price to them.
 
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