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[Norfolk Hill Farmer]

Does anyone have that picture that was going around with a picture split in 4 ,with cars and factories etc pumping out pollution , and in the bottom corner cows contentedly grazing in a meadow. The caption was “ it was the cows wot dun it “ would like to share it.

 

[No wot]

WHERE'S THE NF WHO , when we want them , re - Agriculture climate change they really a joke ,fighting our cause , Not !

 

[Kevtherev]

We should all blockade them in they may listen then when they can’t get home.

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

I'd agree but most UK Beef is finished indoors, with lots of concrete and diesel burnt and the climate means even animals that graze need to be housed in winter. There's also lots of other crops and inputs needed to produce that Beef. Now lots of these greenies won't realise that but there are enough clever ones out there to show the full picture.
One of the pictures in the first post shows 70% of the cows diet is grass, really?
I don't know what the answer is, I'm starting to think that people will only fully understand the importance of agriculture and food production, when there isn't enough food to go around.

Agree with your last point. However concrete, steel and transport are part of any food producing infrastructure.

 

[Jimdog1]

We should be playing these twunts at there own game, i often wonder what would happen if everything farming related just pulled the stop for one week, no milk, no meat, no eggs, no veg or fruit, no grain, sit back and put our feet up for a week or two !

2 weeks before Christmas would be perfect. Purely to make a point and focus some minds.

 

[quattro]

Has anyone the facts of what planes/ships etc produce

 

[Jimdog1]

Actually, perhaps we should just announce a 2 week shutdown over Christmas to "save the planet".

 

[The Seeker]

Cop will come and go lots of puff and waffle from our great leader not much will change, I see so much hypocritical behaviour every day by so many people, just look at food waste. How many tons of pumpkins have just been thrown in the bin?? For what ? man you gotta laugh Christmas next , not before bonfire night lol

 

[Ted M]

We should be playing these twunts at there own game, i often wonder what would happen if everything farming related just pulled the stop for one week, no milk, no meat, no eggs, no veg or fruit, no grain, sit back and put our feet up for a week or two !

Mrs TM and myself only said the same thing last night...

 

[Hfd Cattle]

I'd agree but most UK Beef is finished indoors, with lots of concrete and diesel burnt and the climate means even animals that graze need to be housed in winter. There's also lots of other crops and inputs needed to produce that Beef. Now lots of these greenies won't realise that but there are enough clever ones out there to show the full picture.
One of the pictures in the first post shows 70% of the cows diet is grass, really?
I don't know what the answer is, I'm starting to think that people will only fully understand the importance of agriculture and food production, when there isn't enough food to go around.

I have put a huge amount of concrete down in the last 2 yrs . Most if it should have been done yrs ago however my incentive for doing it was not only the sheer convenience of it but the fact that Natural England have decided that in the 'consideration of the climate and waterways ' they will pay grants to do this .........so your argument about the mass of concrete used for cattle doesn't exactly 'hold water' (sorry for the poor joke) as it is supposed to be good for the waterways and environment.

 

[Castle Farm]

Stop worrying lads. People need a cause to vent their anger and frustration with nothing going on in their lives worth while.
Next year it will be back to save the Whale or Shrimp and with a bit of luck covid will stop a few of the feckers.

 

[delilah]

Apologies to those who have already seen this on other threads but it's really rather good, everyone who is on fb or has a member of the household on it, get them to share the hell out of this fb site.

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1226818807823947&id=546578159181352

 

[Oldmacdonald]

Joe Stanlay has a great thread on twitter. See below:

Thread by @JoeWStanley on Thread Reader App

Thread by @JoeWStanley: We need to talk about 🐂 cows 💨 carbon 🔥 climate change & #COP26 1/🧵 Climate change is happening. The world has warmed >1°c since the mid-C18th as a result of the anthropogenic...…

threadreaderapp.com

 

[glasshouse]

About time someone stood up for us livestock farmers with some truer figures.

I'm fed up with alll the complete rubbish of information peddled by the plant based loving BBC and the holier than holy vegan brain washed morons.

I do wonder if the fossil fuel industries are also peddling the miss-information about meat eating, just to take the attention away from them.

Of course they are

 

[jellybean]

I would have thought deer farming compares pretty favourably. Outside all year round on this farm, no fertiliser used in the last 3 years, no straw needed, no need to spread muck. big bale silage in winter. Annual diesel usage 2000 litres.
Minimal labour input and the only concrete and building is the handling system apart from my workshop/log store. Borehole water and a generator that will run everything when the s--t hits the fan. No I am not a prepper, just covering the likely scenarios to some degree.

 

[yellowbelly]

@yellowbelly I completely agree with you that we need to do something but you need to hit the public with a photo and a short caption that grabs their attention and tugs at their heart strings.

Something a bit more like this?

...but maybe a bit less American.

 

[wrenbird]

It doesn’t matter whether cattle in this country are stood on top of a hill, grazing a river meadow, housed in a concrete shed or a suite at the Ritz, official Government figures put ALL of agricultures contributions to emissions at 10%, so cattle, however they are kept are not a problem, especially as they are part of a completely natural cycle that has been around for several millennia without causing the imminent end of life as we know it.
So, please, no more manly arguments about ”mines better than yours, because….”, cows are not the problem, simple message, we just need to stick to it, loud and proud, keep hammering that home ad nauseum, no apologising, grovelling and hand-wringing like our great leaders are wont to do. Cows are not the problem.

 

[Oliveau]

Report in the Torygraph today:
Pharmaceutical industry produces 25 megatonnes of CO2 per year as opposed to agricultures 5.7 mégatonnes.

 

[Oldmacdonald]

Report in the Torygraph today:
Pharmaceutical industry produces 25 megatonnes of CO2 per year as opposed to agricultures 5.7 mégatonnes.

Hard to argue we don't need medicines though.

Frivolous use of carbon is where we should be pointing our magnifying glass.

 

[hendrebc]

I'd agree but most UK Beef is finished indoors, with lots of concrete and diesel burnt and the climate means even animals that graze need to be housed in winter. There's also lots of other crops and inputs needed to produce that Beef. Now lots of these greenies won't realise that but there are enough clever ones out there to show the full picture.
One of the pictures in the first post shows 70% of the cows diet is grass, really?
I don't know what the answer is, I'm starting to think that people will only fully understand the importance of agriculture and food production, when there isn't enough food to go around.

Not checked if it's 100% true but I think it will be pretty close to it. Stopping producing beef here will just mean it's production is exported.