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They're doing a pretty good job of arguing we don't need proper food
Get ready to defend yourself
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EOM-Ethical Omnivore Movement
EOM-Ethical Omnivore Movement. 34,812 likes · 1,657 talking about this. HONOR your BODY, your FOOD, OUR PLANET
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Abandoned gas wells in the USA leak 281 kT of methane annually.
Easy target right there. A small one, but still.
Easy target right there. A small one, but still.
Post of the week, and it's only Monday.
Arm yourselves with facts and figures by all means, we should all know how to counter some of the dubious but oft repeated nonsense that is chucked our way, and draw attention to the failings of others if you must, but the best advertising campaigns are the simplest, beanz meanz Heinz, not, our beans are the best because they grow in fairy dust watered by unicorn tears, and our competitors are not so they’re rubbish.
Himself across the room from me has read out to me something he’s just found on the bbc website, it’s about a lady from Leeds that joined a local climate change group to learn how to do her bit to help. The main thing she learnt and the only thing she has done so far to help the planet? she has stopped eating red meat. As she says, she never realised before that cows and sheep in a field were doing so much damage to the planet.
I would bet my last rolo in the packet, that if you asked the lady from Leeds, and millions more like her, how ruminants are destroying the planet, most people would be a bit vague as to the exact problem, ”umm, they fart, or something, or drink too much water, and all their food comes from the Amazon, dunno really, but that bloke was on the tele again about it, or it might of been on Facebook, or that actress on the radio, somebody is always going on about it”.
COWS ARE NOT THE PROBLEM, this is all we need to tell the lady from Leeds and millions like her, constantly, now and forevermore, if we have to back it up with fact and figures , then no problem, we can, but we are far too late to the party with the simple truth, COWS ARE NOT THE PROBLEM.
Himself across the room from me has read out to me something he’s just found on the bbc website, it’s about a lady from Leeds that joined a local climate change group to learn how to do her bit to help. The main thing she learnt and the only thing she has done so far to help the planet? she has stopped eating red meat. As she says, she never realised before that cows and sheep in a field were doing so much damage to the planet.
I would bet my last rolo in the packet, that if you asked the lady from Leeds, and millions more like her, how ruminants are destroying the planet, most people would be a bit vague as to the exact problem, ”umm, they fart, or something, or drink too much water, and all their food comes from the Amazon, dunno really, but that bloke was on the tele again about it, or it might of been on Facebook, or that actress on the radio, somebody is always going on about it”.
COWS ARE NOT THE PROBLEM, this is all we need to tell the lady from Leeds and millions like her, constantly, now and forevermore, if we have to back it up with fact and figures , then no problem, we can, but we are far too late to the party with the simple truth, COWS ARE NOT THE PROBLEM.
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It's not just the BBC. On ITV this morning Susana Reed and Rich and Madeley were picking out beef and dairy using worldwide figures, not UK.
I keep saying it's not just the effing BBC, it's every media outlet everywhere.
How the rich are driving climate change
The world's wealthiest people make a huge contribution to climate change through carbon-hungry activities. How can we reduce emissions from the rich?
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Was amazed to see this on the bbc news website, then read it and they manage to squeeze in a 'meat is bad' mention as well...
That's precisely what you did with your concrete systems are finished post.
It seems every BBC post that actually makes some valid intelligent comments about farming has a bit at the end that goes against what they're just said. It's as if the editors say yes we'll run the story, very well done journalist. And then when the author toddles off smiling they stick their own little bit on the end to invalidate the whole thing.How the rich are driving climate change
The world's wealthiest people make a huge contribution to climate change through carbon-hungry activities. How can we reduce emissions from the rich?
Was amazed to see this on the bbc news website, then read it and they manage to squeeze in a 'meat is bad' mention as well...
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No. So why are you doing so?
Even cows that are finished indoors in the UK and sheltered from Winter weather are predominantly grass fed from birth to death.
Cowabunga
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Hard to argue we don't need food to a far higher degree. An order of magnitude more vital in fact.
Haven't seen the green graphic before, very good visual, saved it now thanks. It's a strange thread that. Lots of good points but far too long and complicated to keep the attention of the average member of the public. In fact it goes on for quite a while restating the exact stuff that is used to hoodwink people before then starting to explain why it's more complicated than it first appears. Attention span. It also has some strange links given over to certain misinformation. He really needs to look at it again and trim it down. Quite why he included the g of protein per calorie graphic I've no idea. It's a daft way to look at food precisely because of the cyclical nature of ruminant methane never mind various other problems relating to food quality and nutritional value of foods that promote insulin resistance rather than health benefits.Joe Stanlay has a great thread on twitter. See below:
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Thread by @JoeWStanley: We need to talk about 🐂 cows 💨 carbon 🔥 climate change & #COP26 1/🧵 Climate change is happening. The world has warmed >1°c since the mid-C18th as a result of the anthropogenic...…threadreaderapp.com
I'm being critical but thanks for posting the link.
100% agree.
Feel like putting up a big sign in the field where my cows are for all the people who walk and drive by them.
MY COWS ARE NOT THE PROBLEM
Probably be obscured by graffiti in a day or so.
If we all did it maybe people would ask....so what is the problem?
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3 ideas for making into posters to share over social media ,take to meetings etc.
1. Bald Ricks post somewhere on forum a week or so ago , which shows the uk at night in lights. With caption To0 many cows the problem / or too many humans?
2.Flight checker, again planes/ cattle causing problem?
3.Again humans many construction needs , ie more and more homes build over countryside, Which is problem cows , sheep or too many humans?
Yellow belly's posters great and Dellilah's to, We need to all get posting and spreading message. Local town having their own meeting (cop 26) Part of discussion includes local Agriculture. I will get some info there.
One point don't know if Dellilah knows or anybody? Figures to back up the statement that temperate forest captures only half the amount of carbon that grassland does.Otherwise we will be taken apart on that one.
1. Bald Ricks post somewhere on forum a week or so ago , which shows the uk at night in lights. With caption To0 many cows the problem / or too many humans?
2.Flight checker, again planes/ cattle causing problem?
3.Again humans many construction needs , ie more and more homes build over countryside, Which is problem cows , sheep or too many humans?
Yellow belly's posters great and Dellilah's to, We need to all get posting and spreading message. Local town having their own meeting (cop 26) Part of discussion includes local Agriculture. I will get some info there.
One point don't know if Dellilah knows or anybody? Figures to back up the statement that temperate forest captures only half the amount of carbon that grassland does.Otherwise we will be taken apart on that one.
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25,000 delegates talking hot air about hot air!!
For goodness sake whatever they say , their is surely only a certain amount that can done about global warming, as to make major improvements I would have thought that the world wide car industry , aircraft industry etc etc etc, would have to have restrictions put on them as to how many cars etc they can produce per , thereby stabilising how much Co2 industry is creating across the planet. The trouble is that if industries were not allowed to expand it would eventually lead to mass unemployment worldwide wide which in turn puts the world economy on a downward spiral , “halt production halt the economy “. Yes or No?
For goodness sake whatever they say , their is surely only a certain amount that can done about global warming, as to make major improvements I would have thought that the world wide car industry , aircraft industry etc etc etc, would have to have restrictions put on them as to how many cars etc they can produce per , thereby stabilising how much Co2 industry is creating across the planet. The trouble is that if industries were not allowed to expand it would eventually lead to mass unemployment worldwide wide which in turn puts the world economy on a downward spiral , “halt production halt the economy “. Yes or No?
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It's easy to point the finger. Humanity is the problem because of farming allowing industrialisation.
There is so much potential for farming to provide a big big part of the solution.
There is so much potential for farming to provide a big big part of the solution.
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It's very easy to critisise the COP gathering.
But if it results in measures to reduce fossil fuel use that actually results in limiting us to 1.5 degrees rise.
It'll be worth it.
But if it results in measures to reduce fossil fuel use that actually results in limiting us to 1.5 degrees rise.
It'll be worth it.