Get those machines serviced!!

Mc115reed

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Livestock Farmer
Had a JCB telehandler on demo the other week, salesmen and demo driver both said don’t blow out the filter on this machine, it’s a daily routine in the summer on our tractors so 🤷‍♂️
When I went on a training day when my boss bought Our claas forager the training bloke was very adamant that you don’t blow out the air filters in that unless it comes up on the screen that the air cleaner is blocked… when it did eventually come up the air cleaner was blocked it’s a wonder the f**king thing was running when I took them out 😂
 

Michael S

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Matching Green
On a lot of modern tractors cleaning the air filter is an absolute no-no, simply because of chance of damaging them. Even in a 1980s MB-trac the instruction manual said to only clean the air filter when the warning light came on. Valtra T4 series says only to replace air filter and definitely not to clean, Fendt issued a service bulletin for my 2016 939 saying the same. As ever read the manual, carry out all maintenance according to manufacturers instructions - definitely makes machines last and be more reliable. Of course some will know better.
 

box

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Livestock Farmer
Location
NZ
The key is to not blast them at close proximity with 100+ psi of air pressure. There's no harm in giving them a quick blow off or tapping them upside down to shake the loose stuff out. I've always gone off the rule that once the filter material starts to change colour, it needs replacing.

A bit of common sense goes a long way.
 
we were told by our claas service manager modern honey combe elements should never be blown out!
Is that the Donaldson power core type? There's one on our valtra and it's the same part number for some class. Says in the book to only clean it a maximum of so many times but it's bulllsh!t. The inner safety filter is spotless 100% of the time
 

Pennine Ploughing

Member
Mixed Farmer
The way I see it is that modern engines run at finer tolerances and better engineering that years gone by, everything is more finer detailed, and air filters are the same, yes you can blow them out with an air gun, but not as often as older machines.
The inner filter may look clean and good, so you think the outer one is doing its job as it should, yes it is, but the outer filter can get blocked partially restricting air flow, yet still doing its job on visual inspection.
However this can lead to a dirty burn of fuel in the cylinder, use more addblue, or increase the amount of regeneration it needs to do, along with more fuel usage for work done and can cause over heating in cooling system
 

CPF

Member
Arable Farmer
Never heard so much sales propaganda not to blow out a air filter .If I see anyone blowing out air filter not wearing a face mask gets a kick up the arse from me with all those fine particles of dust going up the nostrils then into there lungs.
But I do like the idea of one of these
 

thorpe

Member
Is that the Donaldson power core type? There's one on our valtra and it's the same part number for some class. Says in the book to only clean it a maximum of so many times but it's bulllsh!t. The inner safety filter is spotless 100% of the time
yes thats the one, have 2 arions here one runs dirty all the time, just renewed the other and it looks like new.
 
yes thats the one, have 2 arions here one runs dirty all the time, just renewed the other and it looks like new.
Never had the light come yet, probably doesn't work🤔. Only been replaced once in 4000 hours out of pure guilt and it didn't make any difference to it running at all.
 

thorpe

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Never had the light come yet, probably doesn't work🤔. Only been replaced once in 4000 hours out of pure guilt and it didn't make any difference to it running at all.
weve never had alight come on but the one that runs dirty has had issues. if the air cleaner has a fault code its prob the only one that hasnt come up.
 

Bury the Trash

Member
Mixed Farmer
Top spin one seems a bit different
trouble is these days asthetics as so called visibility comes before practical .
quest for Smooth bonnet lines to sells better in the modern day than chunky functional stuff sticking up on what is after a working machine
 

Lincsman

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
I don't know why more people don't fit pre-cleaners.
All my machines except the digger have the system where the air intake spins the air and most of the dirt is sucked out by a venturi to the exhaust system so makes the old bowl system redundant.

When I had a NH8080 with the bowl it could fill every 2 hours in some conditions, and if you didnt empty it the filter would be blocked in the next hour
 
Used to have to blow the rads and air filter out daily when dragging stubbles with NH T7060, I've never known a tractor so bad for blocking it's rads.

Combine air filter gets blown out daily, but with the leaf blower.
 

mf7480

Member
Mixed Farmer
I thought most modern air filters are not serviceable. It says on the housings do not clean. This is the oblong shaped cartridge ones rather than the old cylinder ones
 

agrimax

Member
Location
Co Down
How is blowing the bulk of the dust out of any shape or type of an air filter going to be wrong? Seems pretty obvious that where it says do not clean,it is just another ploy from the manufacturers to try and make you buy more filters.
Just the same as the old IH marketing trick...only Hytran must be used in their tractor transmissions when it's just another red UTTO.
 

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