Get your pheasants off my land!

serf

Member
Location
warwickshire
Pheasants are a pain , pees me of when you try to move sheep cattle and finally get them to the gate or loading area , then pheasant bolts n the lot are off 😤
In feed troughs craping , bloody things all congregate at our cos we don't shoot them ,moral of story , shoot em .....
 
Coming over to the thought that If you breed and rear an animal/bird it should be your responsibility to retain it on land that is under your control/ownership
same then applies to those that release
red kites and buzzards that attack the hares
beaver
wild ,boor
red deer

once they are released there is not a lot that any one can do to keep them confined they go where they like
 

MRT

Member
Livestock Farmer
same then applies to those that release
red kites and buzzards that attack the hares
beaver
wild ,boor
red deer

once they are released there is not a lot that any one can do to keep them confined they go where they like
Difference is commercial gains rely on getting the pheasant back
 

Hindsight

Member
Location
Lincolnshire
I was talking to a local chap who runs a thriving little shoot amongst many other enterprises.
I asked where he gets his birds, as they always look incredibly healthy and plentiful even with no keeper on his land, and he just said "Next door".
Which has a large commercial shoot.....

The ones shot which are ringed with the local estate shoot 'badge' are always the best.:)
 

Dry Rot

Member
Livestock Farmer
Just out of curiosity, I wonder how many farming tenants claim for damage done by game? I am not up to date on the legislation, and I'm in Scotland anyway, but I seem to remember that if the landlord retains the sporting rights, he is also obliged to compensate the tenant for the damage the game does.

I encountered that one when a tenant farmer on a shoot I managed looked to the shoot for compensation for rabbit damage claiming he wasn't allowed to shoot them. I dealt with that one by simply giving him written permission to control the rabbits himself or "with one other person so authorised by him in writing". End of problem.

(And, yes, I have experience of both sides! ;)).
 

Bogweevil

Member
I can see possibilities here - in Isfahan, Iran, folk keep pigeons that eat farmers crops yielding pigeon pie and lots of high nitrogen fertiliser essential for the famed local water melons.

Now if an enterprising gamekeeper could arrange for the estate's pheasants to despoil neighbouring rape and clover, garden crops and wild bird tables and feeders and return home to roost a useful saving in N fertiliser could be arranged.
 

PSQ

Member
Arable Farmer
Coming over to the thought that If you breed and rear an animal/bird it should be your responsibility to retain it on land that is under your control/ownership

With regard to the OP, is it not correct that when a pheasant crosses a boundary on to your land, it becomes your pheasant.
Ergo, the eccentric lady is complaining about *her own* pheasants, not those of her shooting neighbours.
Not that I think she'll thank you for explaining that particular point of law...
 

PSQ

Member
Arable Farmer
She is slightly eccentric in the nicest possible way but means well and is a country widowed woman.

... and says that they are eating the seed she puts out for the songbirds.

I don't subscribe to her train of thought, we have plenty in our own fields and part and parcel of our life but it's an interesting viewpoint.....

She sounds like a decent sort, and her patch and the wildlife obviously mean a lot to her.
In the interests of good neighbourly relations, would it be worth taking a sack of wheat over to her "to compensate for the feed taken by the pheasants"?
 

som farmer

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
g-fowl, used to have some, shot the last one, perched in a tree, outside our bedroom window, about 4. o'clock one morning. But, our old farmhouse, was sold to 'townies', and we live 500 meters, down the road. Just thinking, a few g-fowl, in the buildings, would be useful 'guards', never know, my luck, they may roost, in the same tree, outside their bedroom window.......................and they are wild, once released.
 
I can see her point. I have a friend who regularly loses a significant amount of his forage crops to pheasants and any time I put a creep feeder out I end up with a million pheasants stealing the lamb pellets out of them. They used to follow me around with the snacker feeding ewes as well eating ewe nuts.
If your not the one that shoots them then pheasants are a bloody pest. The odd one is fine but you can get hundreds of the barstewards if your near a commercial shoot. Luckily our neighbouring gamekeeper is pretty good at getting them back as best he can.
I am also in this boat. Our neighbouring farm breeds and shoots. They are a bloody pest. They eat the sheep feed, sh*t on everything, eat the corn in the fields and paddle the feeding areas making them that special kind of slick muddy that only chickens, ducks, pheasants, etc can.
From my point of view, I guess I just have to suck it up but it is a pain.
I would organise some sort of shoot of my own too but I'm not really on board with the shooting thing.
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Goodness man that sounds and is jolly reasonable - totally against the caricature of estate shoots!!! ;)

We have a self-keepered shoot here, who think they own the place despite only having 'the right to take pheasants from the woods'. They are being very generous with their wheat, putting it in a few feeders to spread the pheasants around the place. I checked in one of the feeders the other day, as I moved it out of the way on 'my' track, to find they were being very generous with all manner of weed seeds too. About the dirtiest sample I've ever seen, and likely off the cleaner. :mad:
 

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