Getting concerned mk11

[Mr Charisma]

A very wet day on Sunday, pretty wet Monday, a very wet night and a very bad forecast for the weekend it's fair to say I'm getting a bit of deja vu., feels like we've been here already ???

 

[Johnnyboxer]

A very wet day on Sunday, pretty wet Monday, a very wet night and a very bad forecast for the weekend it's fair to say I'm getting a bit of deja vu., feels like we've been here already [emoji848][emoji849][emoji22]

Storm Dennis this weekend

Another storm muted for the following weekend of 22 Feb

3 weekends in a row in February

Certainly deja vu

 

[radar]

As they say -February, fill dyke black or white!

 

[GeorgeK]

At this rate @slim shiny might have to swap his sandals for a sturdy pair of trainers!

 

[Hindsight]

At this rate @slim shiny might have to swap his sandals for a sturdy pair of trainers!

When he starts browsing the Aigle and Hunter website is when we should all prepare for a summer of fallow!

 

[Fish]

A very wet day on Sunday, pretty wet Monday, a very wet night and a very bad forecast for the weekend it's fair to say I'm getting a bit of deja vu., feels like we've been here already ???

Jezzus wept man, it's still winter, what do you expect ?

 

[teslacoils]

I don't get this February fill dyke thing. I appreciate there is some term to imply (rightly) that every month our weather is bobbins but typically February is not a hugely wet month and often has some decent chunks of low humidity. Sadly, this Feb is looking to be total gash, with fronts strung out like ribbons right over us.

I'm beginning to think silaging the barley volunteers might be a viable plan.

 

[Hindsight]

I don't get this February fill dyke thing. I appreciate there is some term to imply (rightly) that every month our weather is bobbins but typically February is not a hugely wet month and often has some decent chunks of low humidity. Sadly, this Feb is looking to be total gash, with fronts strung out like ribbons right over us.

I'm beginning to think silaging the barley volunteers might be a viable plan.

Yes, February is on average one of the drier months. I had high hopes for this happening following a drier than average January when land had started to drain dry. Unfortunately now here in the south of the county after last night I have measured 35mm in the month. And drains are full bore again. Not good.

Probably finishes any hopes of any winter wheat varieties still being sown - SKyfall?

 

[teslacoils]

Agree. It's back to crap today, and forecast bad too. I'm not sure any late wheat is enjoying this at all.

 

[Mr Charisma]

Jezzus wept man, it's still winter, what do you expect ?

It's meant as a tad tounge in cheek as was the original "Getting Concerned" thread started on 25th of Sept for which I was lambasted at the time,,,,,,,,,,, time will tell how much water there is to go under the bridge and may I just add that if you have a reasonable % planted then you might not be quite as concerned as a man who has nothing,,,,,,, but yes sometime to go yet

 

[teslacoils]

I'm actually less concerned than if I had got anything planted tbh. It's special wet now, and even cliff land has puddles; yellow plants; and that horrid sheen to the soil that says it's just very nasty.

 

[4course]

Agree. It's back to crap today, and forecast bad too. I'm not sure any late wheat is enjoying this at all.

its not

 

[D14]

A very wet day on Sunday, pretty wet Monday, a very wet night and a very bad forecast for the weekend it's fair to say I'm getting a bit of deja vu., feels like we've been here already ???

We've got 35% drilled which should make harvest although I can't see any more than 3t/acre if we are lucky. Then we have another 20% drilled but very likely to fail. It was forced in last week and now is drowning as we speak. The remaining 45% will be fallow. We've cancelled fert and chemical orders so thats it the gate is shut.

 

[yellow belly]

A very wet day on Sunday, pretty wet Monday, a very wet night and a very bad forecast for the weekend it's fair to say I'm getting a bit of deja vu., feels like we've been here already ???

You were spot on in September

februarry fill dyke the drains alway run and the dykes fill since May had drains flowing most weeks
I am not that concerned by februarry weather because in 2013 we had as much ti spring drill as this year
that year we had snow and wet in march but then drilled every day from 3 April to the first of May

 

[Wombat]

This time last week Everything looked like it was starting to turn a bit after 4 months of total sh!te, got a bit drilled and thought it might be looking up. Back to garbage again 45mm since sat so far, did manage to find a wheat plant with a root on it yesterday

 

[Flat 10]

We've got 35% drilled which should make harvest although I can't see any more than 3t/acre if we are lucky. Then we have another 20% drilled but very likely to fail. It was forced in last week and now is drowning as we speak. The remaining 45% will be fallow. We've cancelled fert and chemical orders so thats it the gate is shut.

Where in country? And why no spring cropping at all? Can see the attraction of some fallow but I wouldn’t want to leave 45% uncropped!

 

[robbie]

Does anyone know whether defra have issued a exemption for the 3 crop rule????

 

[Fuzzy]

Eligibility for 2020 BPS and greening payments

Land that is temporarily flooded remains eligible for BPS and can be claimed on as normal. However, some farmers are becoming concerned that they will have difficulty meeting their crop diversification requirements (the 3 crop rule) to qualify for the greening element of the payment. This accounts for approximately 30 per cent of the total value of BPS.


If you are in this situation, the following guidance will help you clarify your position and safeguard your greening payment.

Exemptions from the crop diversification requirement for 2020

If your normal cropping pattern is disrupted, the crop diversification requirements you will have to satisfy may differ from previous years.


If the area in fallow, temporary grass and leguminous crops together makes up more than 75% of your arable land, you will be exempt from crop diversification requirements in 2020. A further exemption may apply if more than 75% of all the agricultural area (all of the claimed land apart from woodland and ineligible areas) is permanent or temporary grassland.


Guidance on fallow management requirements and meeting your crop diversification requirements can be found on page 38 of the Basic Payment Scheme: rules for 2019. You may also find it useful to read the Greening workbook for the Basic Payment Scheme in England.

Other ways to meet your 2020 crop diversification requirement

If you were unable to plant winter crops due to the extreme weather conditions, there are a number of options available to help you meet your crop diversification requirement.

• Land left uncropped can be managed to count as fallow for crop diversification requirements. Remember that fallow and temporary grass each count as arable crops to meet the crop diversification rules
• Use spring cropping to help meet crop diversification rules, remembering that spring and winter varieties count as different crops independent of their sowing date. See page 68 of the BPS 2019 scheme rules for further details on eligible crops
• Failed crops can count as the crop originally established, or be managed to count as fallow land. However, supporting evidence will be required (for example seed invoices and delivery notes, crop records or photographs) if it is no longer possible to identify the crop was in the field

Management requirements for fallow land If you will be using fallow land as a crop to count towards your crop diversification requirements, it must be present from 1 May 2020 to 30 June 2020. During that period you may:

• apply plant protection products including herbicides, fungicide, insecticides
• carry out drainage work (including mole draining)
• sow wild bird seed mixes and/or nectar sources and/or pollen sources
• use cultivation to control weeds (for example, blackgrass, ragwort, hemlock)
• top green cover or previous crop residue

You must not:

• carry out any form of production including sowing, harvesting or grazing except where you are sowing grass specifically for a rural development agri-environment scheme or wild bird seed mixes, pollen sources or nectar source
• plough or cultivate the ground unless it is to control weeds (for example, blackgrass, ragwort, hemlock)
• apply fertiliser or farmyard manure except where you have sown wild bird seed mixes and/ or nectar sources and/or pollen sources on land included in a Countryside Stewardship agreement and these activities are permitted under that agreement. If you want to use your fallow land to meet your Ecological Focus Area (EFA) requirements as well as for crop diversification, there are more restrictive management rules which must be followed from 1 January – 30 June 2020. These can be found in the BPS 2019 Scheme rules on page 56

 

[fudge]

I'm actually less concerned than if I had got anything planted tbh. It's special wet now, and even cliff land has puddles; yellow plants; and that horrid sheen to the soil that says it's just very nasty.

Had a 40 mile trip round the highways and byways on my push bike today. With a (very) few notable exceptions cereal crops over here look diabolical. Any recent attempts at cultivation are looking particularly messy. I’d agree those of us behind the cart’s arse are not that badly placed!

 

[v8willy]

There is a saying here, "a good February curses every other month" so a bad one will hopefully bring a decent year to follow.

It's early yet, the days are getting longer, a good drying day in March is worth a week of drying in November....by the end of April it will all be forgotten about....















...hopefully.