Getting concerned

[Zippy768]

Winter has to look after itself or isn't done. But relatively small amount of quality silage, own grain/straw/pulses will still leave a margin.

I dont think one can ignore winter just so cost per acre looks favourable against another crop.
Any grain own/or brought in still has to be budgeted at market price. Same with silage and straw.

If winter isn't done at all, stores bought in spring sold in autumn, one must not forget purchase costs. Commission, levies, haulage all x2 and tb testing. That lot will inroad into margins.

 

[APJ]

We’ve had some but not settled. Raining again now

Can’t believe how fast it came down, had a grain lorry unable to make it in!

 

[Bossfarmer]

Simple answer Yes.

the reason im confused is that the malting barley is normally the nov futures plus £15-20, if the wheat futures are higher due to lack of tonnage this will push malting barley prices up?

 

[Adeptandy]

the reason im confused is that the malting barley is normally the nov futures plus £15-20, if the wheat futures are higher due to lack of tonnage this will push malting barley prices up?

That’s the important word ‘ normally’ this year is far from normal

 

[super4]

the reason im confused is that the malting barley is normally the nov futures plus £15-20, if the wheat futures are higher due to lack of tonnage this will push malting barley prices up?

That's all fine if you can get a contract, are they still available on those terms?
Surely a buyers market next year.

 

[e3120]

I dont think one can ignore winter just so cost per acre looks favourable against another crop.
Any grain own/or brought in still has to be budgeted at market price. Same with silage and straw.

If winter isn't done at all, stores bought in spring sold in autumn, one must not forget purchase costs. Commission, levies, haulage all x2 and tb testing. That lot will inroad into margins.

I wouldn't advocate not wintering them, as there's (usually) a turn in them if you're happy to not have a life. Just that it's the same as your valid point about correctly costing home-grown grain, in that each section has got to stand on its own feet.

Tb less of an issue in north/east arable areas. 17 years since we had a herd test.

Not for everyone, and please don't all do it, but food for thought when concern has set in.

 

[Bossfarmer]

That's all fine if you can get a contract, are they still available on those terms?
Surely a buyers market next year.

ive heard spring barley contracts at 185 but no doubt theyll be limited to a certain tonnage

 

[bankrupt]

Don't know if anyone else has got this, but just had a big Vaderstad advert taking over my screen.

Assuming this is some kind of editorial bad joke.

But could have well done without it.

 

[czechmate]

Don't know if anyone else has got this, but just had a big Vaderstad advert taking over my screen.



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Assuming this is some kind of editorial bad joke.

But could have well done without it.



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To be prepared for the frost?

 

[will l]

Yes, we are 75% grass, 25% cereal here. The grass and cows happily growing along were a lot of comfort when getting the cereal in sensibly was looking unlikely

you not all sown up then?

 

[czechmate]

you not all sown up then?

It was looking like it might not be possible. In fact purchased a fully mounted tine drill to make it possible (and fast). Couldn’t drill 10% and 15% sown will fail (mainly barley).
Tine drill now in the uk waiting for an end to the rain there.

 

[will l]

It was looking like it might not be possible. In fact purchased a fully mounted tine drill to make it possible (and fast). Couldn’t drill 10% and 15% sown will fail (mainly barley).
Tine drill now in the uk waiting for an end to the rain there.

sorry to hear that
have you ever tried durum wheat?

 

[czechmate]

sorry to hear that

Oh; I think it’s a good result .

 

[legin]

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Well this isn’t going to help progress now! Falling heavy this morning haven’t seen snow like this in November that i can remember!

What part of W.Mids?

 

[APJ]

What part of W.Mids?

Shropshire Powys borders, it isn’t thawing either, good covering couple of inches!

 

[super4]

ive heard spring barley contracts at 185 but no doubt theyll be limited to a certain tonnage

I wish I could get near that here. Not much appetite for malting premiums due to brexit uncertainty. Best at this moment is feed barley at 135 nov20 and hope there is a premium or Chuck it in a merchant's pool.

 

[glasshouse]

Sh



Show me a spread sheet that makes money out of grass. Can be done but with land values very hard unless dairy is involved

ten fat lambs per acre at £80

 

[Bossfarmer]

ten fat lambs per acre at £80

high stockin rate, that on rotational grazing?

 

[Chap]

Just flown into Birmingham airport. What a mess . Every river or stream over. Fields a total mess especially where it’s been drilled. Drilled nothing and prob the best thing to have done

 

[bobk]

Just flown into Birmingham airport. What a mess . Every river or stream over. Fields a total mess especially where it’s been drilled. Drilled nothing and prob the best thing to have done

Flew in to East Mids , very similar