If you can grow barley have a shed you can have a feedlot systemhow would there be more land most will be trying to up production to compensate for loss of subs? how would if be cheaper beef production its not suitable for feedlot systems here
If you can grow barley have a shed you can have a feedlot systemhow would there be more land most will be trying to up production to compensate for loss of subs? how would if be cheaper beef production its not suitable for feedlot systems here
The trouble with you is that you are anti UK livestock farming as they come which is very strange given you job is in the farming industry!
If you can grow barley have a shed you can have a feedlot system
North wales. Plenty of rain and wet fields but fancy having a go leave them out and move them before they lake a mess and keep moving them somwere else. Feed hay or silage on the ground. Straw is bloody expensive and i think my 25ish sucklers would save me a lot if they were out. If i cant do it i can always bring them in anyway. Nothing to lose by trying and maybe a lot to save.what part of the country are you in? this will make a big difference
I think he would struggle with that concept or thoughtGiven the cost of it these days, you can probably buy it from farmers nearby and do so cheaper than you might be able to grow it.
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I think he would struggle with that concept or thought
I had several of those chats to , wont spray thistles on own land enter hls then hire grass elsewhere then moan about the rent and having to buy forage ,I have discussions like this from time to time.
Farmer has X acres of the roughest old pasture you can imagine, thistles as tall as me.
Me: 'that land there, fekked innit? You don't want to me putting expensive fertiliser on that'
Farmer: 'yeah it's tired but [add random excuse for not reseeding]'
Me: 'OK, so it's knackered. I know what you can do. Let farmer Y grow wheat on there, you take the straw as payment, he grows the crop and harvests it. He will have to plough, have to control all those weeds (very easy in wheat with modern chemistry) and sort the combining himself. All you have to do is arrange a baler and collect the bales up. Afterwards, you will have a clean stubble and can scratch some seed in, easy'
Farmer: 'oh oh oh oh [insert random lame excuse here]'
It's only pride getting in the way.
I had several of those chats to , wont spray thistles on own land enter hls then hire grass elsewhere then moan about the rent and having to buy forage ,
See alot of the 2nd one , dairy farm next door put arable into rape as £350 ton then screwed up everybody for miles around trying to hijack their regular straw deals straw has cost more ever sinceClassic! Can't afford to sort out their own dirt, weeds and carp growing everywhere, phosphate and lime through the floor, so goes and pays £130/acre per year for land up the road!!
The reverse is also true: owns lots of land, can't be assed or won't pay to improve any of it, has to farm the entire lot whereas matey down the road is growing more stuff/keeping more beasts on half the area.
I am always looking at new ways of doing things so your comment is not strictly true, i am not a glass half empty person i am positive but i am a realist i understand there is a limited amount of things you can do with land in scotland to turn a profit and limited guaranteed markets to sell the produce, thousands have tried different things up here and many different ways of growing crops/raising livestock but it doesnt work, if it did we would all be doing it, niche enterprises can work in the right location but are rarely sustainable or will last a generationHi @Bossfarmer. I'm not Wanting to offend you, nor come across as any particular guru/know all.
You read as a real 'glass half empty' farmer who focuses on problems rather than solutions, clinging to traditional practice and particularly subs as a crutch to your operation and think no one else understands 'your situation'.
So many industries have undergone very radical changes with instant communication and the digital era in the last decade. Way more challenging and radical than what farming has faced. Those who adapt and are prepared to accept the changes, move on and look forward, survive and even thrive. Shed your prejudice/negativity and open your ears, eyes and thoughts to novel ideas, science and practices, be positive and embrace the advice and experiences of others.
Not all ideas may not suit your operation or particular aspects of it, but everyday is a school day and you never know- cherry pick but take risks too. Good advisors, not only save but also earn you money. The best advisors also recognise their limitations and direct you to others to integrate/augment their advice.
Tiresome but true cliche: if you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always got- minus £70/ac.
I'd enjoy the challenge of you as a client in my sphere,but you are too far away.
I cannot like this comment enough.I have discussions like this from time to time.
Farmer has X acres of the roughest old pasture you can imagine, thistles as tall as me.
Me: 'that land there, fekked innit? You don't want to me putting expensive fertiliser on that'
Farmer: 'yeah it's tired but [add random excuse for not reseeding]'
Me: 'OK, so it's knackered. I know what you can do. Let farmer Y grow wheat on there, you take the straw as payment, he grows the crop and harvests it. He will have to plough, have to control all those weeds (very easy in wheat with modern chemistry) and sort the combining himself. All you have to do is arrange a baler and collect the bales up. Afterwards, you will have a clean stubble and can scratch some seed in, easy'
Farmer: 'oh oh oh oh [insert random lame excuse here]'
It's only pride getting in the way.
It is usually symptomatic of an acute courage deficiency.
AKA Spina Diffida
But @Kiwi Pete NZ can grow wheat yield long 16.51t/acre or whatever it is...... only joking..
@hendrebc @exmoor dave i know people who outwinter a lot of cattle in woodland/forests. Also a big sheep farm east of snowdonia has a few thousand ewes in the forest and then feeds them each morning across the edge of the tree line
It's drier under foot because of uptake from the roots!Woodland wintering sounds great! Bet the environmentalistas love that
We've done it with cattle in the past
It's drier under foot because of uptake from the roots!
You throw that at me a lot.
Tell me, when in your eyes will I be able to say I have farmed?
When your dad gives you a farm!!