Getting paid for straw ?

7610 super q

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
It's a game. As far as I can see, trade is reasonable one year in 3. You make some lovely new friends in high price years, only for them to vanish again when straw is plentiful. Just going to keep sheds topped up from now on, and chop the rest. No straw leaves the farm for less than £80/ ton.
The mindset that it's a " waste product ".needs to change, or f**k it.
 

Derrick Hughes

Member
Location
Ceredigion
It's a game. As far as I can see, trade is reasonable one year in 3. You make some lovely new friends in high price years, only for them to vanish again when straw is plentiful. Just going to keep sheds topped up from now on, and chop the rest. No straw leaves the farm for less than £80/ ton.
The mindset that it's a " waste product ".needs to change, or f**k it.
Stop guilding the lily , making things up , no one has said it's a waste product , you should like a biker assasin
Look at Clive , someone don't pay him and he attacs us all , rise up and sniff the coffee , we all got bad payers
 

Mc115reed

Member
Livestock Farmer
Stop guilding the lily , making things up , no one has said it's a waste product , you should like a biker assasin
Look at Clive , someone don't pay him and he attacs us all , rise up and sniff the coffee , we all got bad payers
The way some arable farmers treat it you’d think it’s a waste product… the amount that go combining in the rain 2 weeks before it’s ready then throwing a wobbler because the baler man hasn’t been a month later 🤦‍♂️
 

7610 super q

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
Stop guilding the lily , making things up , no one has said it's a waste product , you should like a biker assasin
Look at Clive , someone don't pay him and he attacs us all , rise up and sniff the coffee , we all got bad payers
Bad payers is just another nail in the coffin. Yes, there's been plenty of grain merchants going bust and owing growers, but by god it's easy selling the grain part of the product to merchants.Load at an agreed price, at an agreed time, and get paid 28 days later. The straw job is a pain in the butt from start to finish.
 

texelburger

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Herefordshire
@Clive We sell some straw standing and some baled out of the shed in the winter.We have sold bales to farmers and dealers and the only time I can recall being stung was a small load on a 7.5 ton lorry about 40 years ago.The few dealers we do business with pay the second the last strap has been ratcheted up.So I wouldn't tar them all with the same brush,there are some honest ones about.
Still I sympathise with your situation,can't be nice.
 

roscoe erf

Member
Livestock Farmer
It's a game. As far as I can see, trade is reasonable one year in 3. You make some lovely new friends in high price years, only for them to vanish again when straw is plentiful. Just going to keep sheds topped up from now on, and chop the rest. No straw leaves the farm for less than £80/ ton.
The mindset that it's a " waste product ".needs to change, or f**k it.
It is a waste product your not growing the crop for the straw
 

Barleycorn

Member
BASE UK Member
Location
Hampshire
When we had a surplus of straw we used to sell to Charlie Mundel, from Ilfracombe direction. Straight as a die, used to give a cheque before he left with lorry and drag, we knew what weight it would be. Only slight problem, I was recently clearing out a drawer and found an uncashed cheque for the best part of a grand, 20 years too late for that one!
 

egbert

Member
Livestock Farmer
Simple - don’t sell your straw

it’s far more valuable in your field / on your soil, than the few measly £££ you might get for it

PS - take it from a long term zero tiller ( my whole farming career of 35 years or so ), you won’t get DD / zero till to work
properly until you retain all your straw

it just does my head in the way you lot have to remove all the residue off your fields as if it’s a bad thing. A few £££ doesn’t even begin to compensate for what you are missing out on by not keeping it . . .
Might be different with you, but there would be straw sold standing, at auction here, which would pay the interest on freehold land.
I've no doubt it'd be better in the soil, but-as they say- business is business.

I'm sorry @Clive has had some wrong'uns.
I'd give them fair warning, then name em and shame em
(I certainly wouldn't expect my supplier to keep the next man waiting.....you gotta pay, and be paid...that's the rule*)

The annoying thing - for me as a buyer- is that bad payers mean more straw gets chopped...so the price goes up again!

*a tip for Clive, if I'm in some doubt about a transaction, I advise my buyer that, should there be a hiccup when payments are due, their information , and cctv pics, get passed straight onto 'the Albanians'. seems to work, although the only bad'un I've got at the mo is someone who looks worse than the Albanians.
 

Hilly

Member
What is it about straw buyers that thinks they don'y need to pay or can run their business on my cashflow ? happens over and over, diferent buyers same sob stories, without doubt the worst payers in British farming

next time a livestock farmer wonders why so much straw is chopped this is the reason

Any tips (short of physical violence) on how to get money out of a straw buyer ?
As a good payer but sometimes finds it difficult to find straw to buy because of twits like this if you want a hand to batter said theif just say the word these twits do more harm to people like me than anyone . barstewards
 

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