Getting paid for straw ?

[Lazy Eric]

Money up front a month before the combine if sold privately
or put it in auction with reserve .It will be the best 5% commission you ever
pay an auctioneer .This is pretty basic stuff to be honest and cant understand the
logic of payment 28 days after cutting,that is very risky business.

28 days is because this industry used to work on trust and a gentleman’s agreement,before all the flyby nights who have no Conscience got involved.

 

[lloyd]

28 days is because this industry used to work on trust and a gentleman’s agreement,before all the flyby nights who have no Conscience got involved.

Exactly why 28 days after doesn't work any more .(You are one of the 50% of the good guys).Been there bought the tshirt .

 

[Optimus]

Wouldn't worry too much the way the cattle job is looking.they'll be hell of a lot less cattle about in the near future.although where will all the grain go that they eat.

 

[lloyd]

Wouldn't worry too much the way the cattle job is looking.they'll be hell of a lot less cattle about in the near future.although where will all the grain go that they eat.

Chickens.

 

[Weasel]

pretty much everyone I’ve ever sold straw to can be tarred with this same brush

it won’t happen again thats for sure, should have learnt my lesson by now really

Was it a suckler farmer?

 

[Clive]

Wouldn't worry too much the way the cattle job is looking.they'll be hell of a lot less cattle about in the near future.although where will all the grain go that they eat.

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I’m not a charity or hobby, we are a business

 

[Clive]

Was it a suckler farmer?

no contractor / merchant

 

[Spencer]

Just go and knock on his door

 

[An Gof]

Trouble is, if I was a fairly sizeable arable farmer, I would want to know I was selling the stuff for sensible money and helping the livestock guys out, after all, livestock underpin the demand for feed grains (and even OSR, sunflower etc indirectly), in the UK. It is thus in my interests that the livestock sector prospers. I'd also prefer to forge a relationship with a few guys and get to know and trust them, knowing that they would take the straw year after year.

An auction is purely a money transaction, you might get crazy good prices one year and not see a guy the next.

Thats not what the Liveweight v’s Deadweight livestock protagonists say about auctions

 

[lloyd]

Just go and knock on his door

Or send Chaffcutter around with some wheel clamps .

 

[An Gof]

I sympathise with @Clive I have had similar problems in the past with moorland farmers buying silage. I only ever reckon to get bitten once, life is so much better now that I refuse to sell to any moorland farmer (I might make an exception for @egbert cos he seems decent and knows some Albanians )
I’ve heard all the payment excuses (did 20 years in the ag supply trade) only got properly shafted once ……..

 

[Radio]

Sometimes works the other way , local farmer agreed price with farm manager and by the time he went to bale was told prices had gone up so pay extra or go. Too late then to go elsewhere so paid.

 

[ollie989898]

Thats not what the Liveweight v’s Deadweight livestock protagonists say about auctions

This thread is plenty emotive enough what with words like 'straw' and 'chopping' being thrown about, best leave the liveweight vs deadweight thing alone for a bit.

 

[ollie989898]

Sometimes works the other way , local farmer agreed price with farm manager and by the time he went to bale was told prices had gone up so pay extra or go. Too late then to go elsewhere so paid.

That is bloody sour in my book.

 

[kiwi pom]

no contractor / merchant

Contractors have bases, take them a copy of the invoice, see what they say, they might be in genuine financial trouble.

Was there any problem with the straw? too green, forced to bale it early etc?

 

[Cowcorn]

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Thats straw Chief always was the same you will get your money just not when you want it ...
Has to be asked why are you selling straw anyway ??? I thought you were a big believer in this regen guff and chopped everything..
By any chance would it be the same reason as the rest of us ?? That a good straw cheque goes a long way to paying the rent or in your case helps " doll " up the landowners share ..
Years ago i was in a straw buyers yard " begging " for my money so i know how frustrating it can be but remember revenge is a dish best served cold so keep a cool head and when you get the dough show yer man the road !!
From now on i will only sell straw to regular good paying customers the rest will be put into the chopping scheme . The few acres i put in this year beat the hell out of baling and selling A hundred euro acre showed up in my Bank account just before Christmas and my land gets to keep the straw !!.

 

[mo!]

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I’m not a charity or hobby, we are a business

Behave like a business rather than gossiping in the virtual pub. Aren't you embarrassed that you don't know how to recover a debt? Or that you've left it this long? 'Cause you look like a right plonker from where I'm sitting.

 

[Renaultman]

Simple - don’t sell your straw

it’s far more valuable in your field / on your soil, than the few measly £££ you might get for it

PS - take it from a long term zero tiller ( my whole farming career of 35 years or so ), you won’t get DD / zero till to work
properly until you retain all your straw

it just does my head in the way you lot have to remove all the residue off your fields as if it’s a bad thing. A few £££ doesn’t even begin to compensate for what you are missing out on by not keeping it . . .

What about returning it as muck?

 

[Optimus]

to chickens, pigs, bread, fuel, sweeteners / alcohol and many other markets both here and abroad

I’m not a charity or hobby, we are a business

Wouldn't count on the first 2 on your list.

We are all a business.

 

[glasshouse]

What is it about straw buyers that thinks they don'y need to pay or can run their business on my cashflow ? happens over and over, diferent buyers same sob stories, without doubt the worst payers in British farming

next time a livestock farmer wonders why so much straw is chopped this is the reason

Any tips (short of physical violence) on how to get money out of a straw buyer ?

Far too much straw bought too dear this yr and lying unsold
Was always going to happen after a shortage