Getting paid for straw ?

[Hilly]

28 days is because this industry used to work on trust and a gentleman’s agreement,before all the flyby nights who have no Conscience got involved.

Well said !

 

[Hilly]

Phone the man and cut the price in half if he pays now
Why give profit to meathead debt collectors
Every man and his dog jumped in this yr

Your fuking mental !

 

[Derrick Hughes]

I pay my bills on time, I expect others to do the same

If they don't I will not deal with them in the future

simple and not unreasonable


125 post ? well its seems i'm not alone in getting paid 5 months late for straw maybe ?

If I don't get payed I blame myself for being a fool , a bloody big fool in the past , one guy from Shropshire who is well known on Social media took me for a good few thousand , I will never get payed , one load is perhaps excusable , but giving him another load without first payment is maddness being a new customer I did not know , I damn well know him now
Go through the proper channels to recoup what's owed and make sure u learn from your mistake , it's taken me years to learn
Tarring straw dealers all with the same brush is bad form and not nice

 

[Hilly]

If I don't get payed I blame myself for being a fool , a bloody big fool in the past , one guy from Shropshire who is well known on Social media took me for a good few thousand , I will never get payed , one load is perhaps excusable , but giving him another load without first payment is maddness being a new customer I did not know , I damn well know him now
Go through the proper channels to recoup what's owed and make sure u learn from your mistake , it's taken me years to learn
Tarring straw dealers all with the same brush is bad form and not nice

Name an shame

 

[glasshouse]

Why ?No one forced him to buy the straw it
was a business decision at the time like everything
else .As long as the dealer is solvent and has assets
and there is evidence of the deal then Clive has everything
to gain from going after the full amount .
Clive might be naive at selling straw but in this instance he should
be paid the agreed amount in full.

Of course he should, but why sell the debt for 30% of its value to knuckle dragging semi criminals?
Deal direct and save both sides money.
I have been stung for hay and straw myself, i know what its like

 

[lloyd]

Of course he should, but why sell the debt for 30% of its value to knuckle dragging semi criminals?
Deal direct and save both sides money.
I have been stung for hay and straw myself, i know what its like

Why would you sell the debt just deal with it!
If you have to go down the legal route add interest
on top if not settled in reasonable time.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Name an shame

He's had enough shame to bury a horse , water off a ducks back

 

[lloyd]

He's had enough shame to bury a horse , water off a ducks back

To be fair I've never had a problem with any of the proper
dealers in Herefordshire .

 

[Derrick Hughes]

To be fair I've never had a problem with any of the proper
dealers in Herefordshire .

Ain't a dealer , a dairy farmer , beef and sheep farmers are best for paying , they tend to live within their means, but all my farmers are good to be fair

 

[Highland Mule]

Any tips (short of physical violence) on how to get money out of a straw buyer ?

Same way as you get money out of any buyer - the product or buyer doesn’t matter:

• Due diligence before you supply;
• Invoice promptly with your terms clearly stated;
• Follow up as required and apply the relevant interest* to late payers;
• Involve lawyers as necessary.

* Late payment of Commercial Debt (interest) Act 1998 applies. Last I checked it was 8% compound rate plus flat rate fees. One of the best income streams I ever had was regular work for a FTSE company with a poor admin department and offshored invoice paying function.

 

[William]

I have found the small claims court on line to be very good. A small claim apparently is anything under £100k.

 

[lloyd]

I have found the small claims court on line to be very good. A small claim apparently is anything under £100k.

Are you sure it's not a £10k ceiling?

 

[Dead Rabbits]

It’s pretty straightforward over here. Payment before anything leaves or is unloaded. There is a reason for that, as you found out.

The hay Jockeys ruined it for everyone

 

[warksfarmer]

What is it about straw buyers that thinks they don'y need to pay or can run their business on my cashflow ? happens over and over, diferent buyers same sob stories, without doubt the worst payers in British farming

next time a livestock farmer wonders why so much straw is chopped this is the reason

Any tips (short of physical violence) on how to get money out of a straw buyer ?

If we sell in the swath it’s full payment up front per acre before harvest. If they don’t pay they don’t bale it.
Or get a contractor to bale and stack it then sell it to a well known merchants but you’ll have to load it. There’s no other way bar selling to the carrot boys.

 

[mo!]

?? My supplier don't have to do anything - I pay my bills on-time, i expect the same from others

Are you seriously suggesting its OKM and acceptable to pay your bills 5 month late ?

We have been doing plenty about it chasing the debt (a complete waste of everyones time). and I will only be selling straw via auction in the future with payment up front ...... lesson learnt

What was the court's ruling then? How much per week are they having to pay? Or are you just moaning?

 

[mo!]

I'm asking a question like any other TFF member can - I force no-one to reply

I appreciate the responses, especially the helpful ones

And yet you haven't responded to the helpful ones? The law is on your side but it seems you haven't used the law, choosing to whinge on your personal platform.

Sad.

 

[7610 super q]

Not much of a forum if folks don't start threads......

 

[Still Farming]

harvest and still not paid / not answering the phone to us ............. again !


agreement was as always 28days from invoice


I have no issues with debt ever apart from straw buyers - why is this ?

Name and shame.
End Buyers paid them most likely?

 

[puntabrava]

If we sell in the swath it’s full payment up front per acre before harvest. If they don’t pay they don’t bale it.
Or get a contractor to bale and stack it then sell it to a well known merchants but you’ll have to load it. There’s no other way.

Of course there is,
Have you managed to get a loader that does not have the forks ratchet strapped to the carriage yet In your own words.
Twaaatts deal with twattsss and will be sucked in by a proportion of those they deal with, same for op as yourself. If you continually chase the elusive fiver you will be had and good for them.

 

[Mc115reed]

And yet you haven't responded to the helpful ones? The law is on your side but it seems you haven't used the law, choosing to whinge on your personal platform.

Sad.

I feel like there’s 2 sides too every story and we are only getting 1 side