Glyphosate again

[ski]

A Message to the EU: Address the Real Public Health Crisis by Banning Glyphosate

Colin Todhunter & Rosemary Mason The herbicide glyphosate – the most widely used herbicide on the planet – is authorised for use in the EU until December 2022. The EU is currently assessing wh…

off-guardian.org

I am not sure what to make of this piece, does it have any merit or is based on nothing? I like most use it but worry there may be more downsides than we've been made aware of yet also think that most stuff like this is nonsense.

 

[SRRC]

While it's prudent to take concerns about food safety seriously I suggest you take a trip into the wierd world of the conspiracy theorists in the discussion below the article in order to understand where this stuff comes from.
Also note the request to contribute to support the campaign, that's the main reason for this sort of article, not that there's any new science.

 

[DrWazzock]

Where can I get some? That’s the more pressing concern.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

I got six drums from my supplier last week, over £70 now ,coops are nearly £100

 

[Bogweevil]

A Message to the EU: Address the Real Public Health Crisis by Banning Glyphosate

Colin Todhunter & Rosemary Mason The herbicide glyphosate – the most widely used herbicide on the planet – is authorised for use in the EU until December 2022. The EU is currently assessing wh…

off-guardian.org

I am not sure what to make of this piece, does it have any merit or is based on nothing? I like most use it but worry there may be more downsides than we've been made aware of yet also think that most stuff like this is nonsense.

It's piffle, to use a technical term.

 

[SilliamWhale]

The article is all over the shop. Shifting from cancer to glyphosate to nature reserve to insecticides.

 

[Campbell]

USA's biggest glyphosate plant [Bayer] was shut down during storm Ida, not sure if it's started up again....

 

[Bury the Trash]

 

[betweenthelines]

Got to ask, why is glyphosate the most widely used herbicide?

As it kills everything with one application, common sense would say you use it once on an area of land and it's several years before the weed burden is enough to justify using it again.

Or is it being used inappropriately?

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Got to ask, why is glyphosate the most widely used herbicide?

As it kills everything with one application, common sense would say you use it once on an area of land and it's several years before the weed burden is enough to justify using it again.

Or is it being used inappropriately?

You can't realy direct drill without it , and it's better for the environment not to plough , so choose your weapons carefully

 

[robs1]

Got to ask, why is glyphosate the most widely used herbicide?

As it kills everything with one application, common sense would say you use it once on an area of land and it's several years before the weed burden is enough to justify using it again.

Or is it being used inappropriately?

It only kills what it lands on, it has no residual activity so new weeds will grow very quickly so ay least once a year treatment is needed if you dd to give the new seeds a clean start.

 

[Bury the Trash]

You can't realy direct drill without it , and it's better for the environment not to plough , so choose your weapons carefully

bull sh it.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

bull sh it.

Thats damn good for the land to

 

[betweenthelines]

You can't realy direct drill without it , and it's better for the environment not to plough , so choose your weapons carefully

So would DD'ing end if Glyphosate is banned?

And is the environmental impact of manufacturing and using Glyphosate less than ploughing?

 

[Derrick Hughes]

So would DD'ing end if Glyphosate is banned?

And is the environmental impact of manufacturing and using Glyphosate less than ploughing?

Depends how you define direct drilling , I also direct drill with very minimum tillage which I think could work without spraying

 

[betweenthelines]

I'm old enough to remember when Glyphosate first became available. At that time it was a game changer in dealing with weeds that were difficult to kill by traditional cultivations, docks and couch grass for example.

What seems to have changed is that it now seems to be the "go to" weedkiller for all weeds-most of which can be easily controlled by cultivations. Why does it now seem to be necessary to spray off grassland before ploughing-can no one set up a plough anymore? And using glyphosate to "ripen" cereals-what is that about?

If it gets banned, farmer will have only themselves to blame due it's inappropriate and over use.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

I'm old enough to remember when Glyphosate first became available. At that time it was a game changer in dealing with weeds that were difficult to kill by traditional cultivations, docks and couch grass for example.

What seems to have changed is that it now seems to be the "go to" weedkiller for all weeds-most of which can be easily controlled by cultivations. Why does it now seem to be necessary to spray off grassland before ploughing-can no one set up a plough anymore? And using glyphosate to "ripen" cereals-what is that about?

If it gets banned, farmer will have only themselves to blame due it's inappropriate and over use.

Ploughing won't kill docks, the No1 problem on a dairy farm , if you don't use roundup yiu will end up spraying later with something a lot less effective

 

[Courier]

I was pleasantly surprised many (20+) years ago by the effectiveness of pre-harvest application on feed wheats and grasses before silage and the subsequent shortening of time to planting the next crop, however more recently I was horrified to learn that milling wheats could be sprayed with glyphosate and see the combine in within 3 or 4 days.
Perhaps, just perhaps the massive rise in “gluten intolerance” is actually glyphosate intolerance - Folk have been eating wheat products for 1000’s of years but mass “gluten intolerance” seems to have occurred during the pre-harvest glyphosate period.

 

[ajd132]

The ploughees round here use just as much glyphosate as the direct drillers, apart from the organic guy, who gets a lot more for his produce.

 

[robs1]

I was pleasantly surprised many (20+) years ago by the effectiveness of pre-harvest application on feed wheats and grasses before silage and the subsequent shortening of time to planting the next crop, however more recently I was horrified to learn that milling wheats could be sprayed with glyphosate and see the combine in within 3 or 4 days.
Perhaps, just perhaps the massive rise in “gluten intolerance” is actually glyphosate intolerance - Folk have been eating wheat products for 1000’s of years but mass “gluten intolerance” seems to have occurred during the pre-harvest glyphosate period.

Legal gap after pre harvest is 7 days. Not that much is used pre harvest and I've been and advocate of that use bring banned, however this time Ive used it on spring wheat as a lot of late rubbish has come through it after the mid august storms, I'm sure our northern members need it quite often for later harvests.