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Glyphosate - Bayer calls Force Majeure
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bump @delilah listen to me, listen to my views, i am right everyone else with a view is wrong.
glasshouse
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- Location
- lothians
£200????
No roundup and no fert it wants to be £400 plus
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grass it down then and let the proper farmers get on with it . [ ill get my coat ]
whatever is economic, will be a lot of sheep in the uk then!
“Those with broken calculators”, listen up my chippy friend, glyphosate reaching £9 per litre is all it took for your ‘sustainable’ business model to fall to bits.
And a point of order: do those who aren’t DD worshiping acolytes really use Roundup “extensively” (in your case ‘excessively’) ?
“Around here” even the farmers who plough only ever use it one year in four to desiccate OSR, and a knapsacks worth for the garden and yard.
when did glyphosate at £9/l break a business model? my point, was if you read it properly was if we all had to essentially run an organic weed control system, ploughing and repeated cultivations evey year it would not be economic for us in this area, on top of high fertiliser prices, bps going, paying rent, doing a CFA IN THIS AREA.
and a point of order, we use less glyphosate than when we were rotationally ploughing and cultivating.
It’s reassuring that unlike many DD farmers you’re not dependant on spraying 2L for each of 3+ passes, to vainly attempt to control a rampant resistant Black grass problem, that can’t otherwise be controlled, errr, without glyphosate, or ploughing
And just what have you done to borx your soil texture, that it can’t readily be made into a seedbed after ploughing?
Why would anyone need to spray 3 times?It’s reassuring that unlike many DD farmers you’re not dependant on spraying 2L for each of 3+ passes, to vainly attempt to control a rampant resistant Black grass problem, that can’t otherwise be controlled, errr, without glyphosate, or ploughing
And just what have you done to borx your soil texture, that it can’t readily be made into a seedbed after ploughing?
We used to plough for blackgrass made very little difference.
It’s clay, if you get a dry summer, autumn then you push lumps around for weeks on end.
This number big enough for you?
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- Essex
I can tell you that round here, not far from AJD, at least as much roundup is used by the tillers than the no tillers.It’s reassuring that unlike many DD farmers you’re not dependant on spraying 2L for each of 3+ passes, to vainly attempt to control a rampant resistant Black grass problem, that can’t otherwise be controlled, errr, without glyphosate, or ploughing
And just what have you done to borx your soil texture, that it can’t readily be made into a seedbed after ploughing?
They have what they call stale seedbeds, which they spray off repeatedly, having created the conditions the BG really thrives in, so it can grow and be sprayed off. Cover crops do get sprayed but usually at the end, the idea being that weed seeds stay on top and either grow, rot or are predated.
Everyone sprays before drilling. Leaving the door open for BG is asking for trouble.
There's plenty of farms round here that plough and have blackgrass.
The fact is a loss of glyphosate would have a huge affect on many of us in different ways. In the east we have grass weeds that we cannot control with methods such as crimping.
Many Scottish farmers are fairly reliant on pre harvest glyphosate, their costs would shoot up with drying and more combining capacity.
The cost of machinery, ploughs, fuel and metal rising is another important factor.
those revelling in it who are staunch users of the plough are very short sighted, in my opinion.
glasshouse
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- lothians
CFA only got going thanks to roundup removing any need for cultivation skills or grain dryers
And single farm payment removing any monetary risk to the landowner .
All that is now history
And single farm payment removing any monetary risk to the landowner .
All that is now history
Cfa’s don’t dry grain?
Apologies, if you want an instant response to everything you will need to buy me a smart phone, have been out tending to our methane factories.
You will need to show me where I have berated anyone for defending their own system. All I have ever done is point out that no system should be supported by public money above another. World of difference between that and what you are trying to accuse me of.
will_mck
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Good time to buy shares in Bayer if they're copying other large global companies at the moment. Have a shortage, create insane demand, jack up prices permanently, enjoy record profits for the foreseeable future. All these input price rises have woken me up from my usual standard procedure habits and I'm questioning do I need this stuff or as much of it for the first time. By way of revenge for these price rises in basic inputs like fertiliser, chemicals and energy I intend to reduce or find alternative methods where I can so I'm not as exposed to price gouging from now on. Reduced dependence on glyphosate isn't suitable for every farmer but those that can reduce use of glyphosate should do so, if only to stick it to these big companies and say we're not as agreeable as you think
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- Lincolnshire
Wonder if the touted roundup replacement may make a miraculous appearance, once we all get used to glyohosate at £10/Lt to set the benchmark.
We started down this path a while ago but still worryingly reliant. ‘Chasing the red queue’ by Andy dyer is a good look at pesticide and GM addiction in the states
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Good thing we haven't banned any other dessicants / non selective herbicides.........oh.