Going forward with Oilseed Rape.

[T Hectares]

Flamingo was nothing special here two years ago, and the Aspire this year awful.

Of course these were the only seeds purchased while the fss Campus grew away...

 

[Devon James]

Flamingo was nothing special here two years ago, and the Aspire this year awful.

Of course these were the only seeds purchased while the fss Campus grew away...

Aspire nothing taring here. But let's hope it yields better than it looks!

 

[FarmerBruce]

Aspire nothing taring here. But let's hope it yields better than it looks!

Anastasia here has looked so much better than Aspire all year and still does. Doubt we’ll be saving the Aspire now, which was the plan!

 

[JCfarmer]

What I find encouraging is the amount of insects but no hordes of flea beetles walking out the store like many report most years

Thats because they are fast learners, have avoided the combine and ly in wait for this years osr.

 

[ollie989898]

https://www.agweb.com/article/skeptical-farmers-monster-message-profitability

this article, and this guys view totally sums up the way I have been thinking and heading, and why I keep banging on the same message that some are probably finding very tiresome by now. Fantastic stuff.

I feel in some ways the blackgrass train has become the same game. For some it has become non-winnable but you still see 'ah but a wheat crop full of blackgrass still pays' from time to time. Long term it isn't sustainable.

Ultimately if you intend to beat this kind of agronomic issue it will mean doing something rather different than just riding the chemical dragon forever.

 

[JCfarmer]

Clive and ajd132 can I ask are your systems exactly the same regarding osr establishment?
Clive has obviously suffered badly form flea bettle lavae but you haven't and seem to have a reasonable crop to harvest?
Drill ,Drilling date, rotation etc?

 

[ajd132]

Clive and ajd132 can I ask are your systems exactly the same regarding osr establishment?
Clive has obviously suffered badly form flea bettle lavae but you haven't and seem to have a reasonable crop to harvest?
Drill ,Drilling date, rotation etc?

I think I drilled much earlier

 

[Paul Gosling]

Reading the United oilseeds book this morning and it says that accacia has a high vigour score of 7.1 according to ahdb trials. How come I can't find vigour scores for all varieties on the recommended list if the ahdb have the info?? Anyone have any literature for vigour scores? Cheers

RL asks trial operators to do a look see vigour score, but there is no formal protocol, so no official score. Its something we are looking into introducing, but vigour scoring is not straight forward.

 

[teslacoils]

Even this year's dog crap spring crops have better BG control and higher margin than an 8t/ha wheat crop with high inputs . That's for essentially a quarter of the work. Admittedly the potential for massive profit isn't there but neither is the huge loss. Think everyone in the east knows someone who has replaced failed rape with barley only to have it not come and then spray that off too.

In a normal year you could drive round and see plenty of bg. Fields are very clean, albeit patchy emergence of the cash crop. That's in all cases despite establishment method.

 

[casemx 270]

Farm saved seed drill it early, limited risk.

We ve done this total waste of time from 900 acre afew years ago to nothing next year

 

[solo]

Any opinions on Flamingo osr? We have Aspire in the ground that planned to use for fss but had a good report on the flamingo being a quick developer?

Flamingo here is my poorest, but it was planted late August, whereas the campus planted early August is twice the crop. Combine may tell me differently. I may fss the campus but not the flamingo.

 

[D14]

I am in the same dilemma as everybody else; how much rapeseed do I try to establish this autumn. We are a plough based system at present and plough down a good dressing of broiler litter. Most of our crops established to some extent last time, but there are a lot of bare and weedy headlands. Sprayed twice for flea beetle last time. However the rape crops are the poorest we have ever grown, and I am minded to cut our acreage this autumn. What are you all doing?

I know of 4000 acres that won't be sown within our local machinery group of around 40 farmers. I think the crop is finished in the UK and even those people that preserve with it might find in the future theres not enough tonnes grown so nobody will process it here in the UK.

 

[DrWazzock]

Even this year's dog crap spring crops have better BG control and higher margin than an 8t/ha wheat crop with high inputs . That's for essentially a quarter of the work. Admittedly the potential for massive profit isn't there but neither is the huge loss. Think everyone in the east knows someone who has replaced failed rape with barley only to have it not come and then spray that off too.

In a normal year you could drive round and see plenty of bg. Fields are very clean, albeit patchy emergence of the cash crop. That's in all cases despite establishment method.

Its my new strategy. Stubble turnips, late drilled (jan/feb) winter wheat and spring barley. Beet as well and the sheep or some sort of livestock. The sheep work well with beet and turnips. On this land I can’t see much point in drilling winter crops in the autumn to struggle with all sorts of problems for 5 months before they even get into gear. Manganese, bydv, blackgrass, slumping, flooding, slugs, nematodes, frost heave, cranesbill, autumn herbicide, earlier fungicide, cash tied up and then it still dries out in June. All of the cereals can be direct drilled in the spring. It worked reasonably well this year, so it can work any year. If I want a challenge I might even try some lupins, though last time I tried them they were quite easy apart from the late combining date.
Will suit me and my farm system, though not everybody.

 

[teslacoils]

Three years grass, three years cereals with winter beans between if grass pests are annoying.

 

[radar]

Drove through Haverholme Park and towards Ewerby and Kirkby la Thorpe (nr Sleaford, Lincs) yesterday there is several hundred acres of very reasonable OSR there. Probably all Haverholme Estates land.
Does anyone know how they managed it as not many others around here have?

 

[yellow belly]

Drove through Haverholme Park and towards Ewerby and Kirkby la Thorpe (nr Sleaford, Lincs) yesterday there is several hundred acres of very reasonable OSR there. Probably all Haverholme Estates land.
Does anyone know how they managed it as not many others around here have?

how many acres did they plant to get a few fields
round here those with some rape planted a lot of acres to get it 75 % failure rate on average

 

[yellow belly]

Drove through Haverholme Park and towards Ewerby and Kirkby la Thorpe (nr Sleaford, Lincs) yesterday there is several hundred acres of very reasonable OSR there. Probably all Haverholme Estates land.
Does anyone know how they managed it as not many others around here have?

how many acres did they plant to get a few fields
round here those with some rape planted a lot of acres to get it 75 % failure rate on average

 

[radar]

how many acres did they plant to get a few fields
round here those with some rape planted a lot of acres to get it 75 % failure rate on average

Haven't been that way all winter to tell what didn't make it.