Going hourly rate for 150 hp tractor

[Wellytrack]

Some folks are buying new tractors to do less than 500 hours a year.

 

[Speedstar]

There are slurry contractors here doing that.
3 year old and 9000 hrs

Do there lads last long ? , Do they have a life ?

 

[hoff135]

I reckon as a contractor i spend half the time not earning anything, travelling to jobs, swapping over and fixing implements etc. There's a lot of down time

 

[Tim G]

Some folks are buying new tractors to do less than 500 hours a year.

A neighbour lent us their grass harrow with the condition that we borrowed the tractor it was on too, as they couldn't be doing with swapping things on and off. It was a 15 year old small ish John deere, 5820 or something like that. Anyway, Mrs G went of harrowing with it and I went drilling. She phoned me say the tractors is making a beeping noise, what's wrong. Went to have a look, it was the 500hr service alarm.......








It was due its first 500hr service!

 

[farmerm]

Some folks are buying new tractors to do less than 500 hours a year.

and why not... means they don't have to think about buying another one for 20 years....

 

[Courier]

I worked on the following on my 12 year old 130hp one the other day

£10 per hour depreciation or cost to change so to speak
Average 10l fuel per hour at 1.10/l = £11
£15/hr driver
Tyres £1/ hour
Oil and servicing 50p/ hr
Insurance £50p/hr

Total £38.per hour

Add 10% for profit and your nearly at around £42.

So all that effort and risk for £3.80 per hour profit ?

 

[Wellytrack]

and why not... means they don't have to think about buying another one for 20 years....

Their choice obviously, though probably not. A lot of tractors are swapped out at 4-5 years old and that’s that. Maybe that thinking may change in present times.

 

[Norfolk Olly]

A neighbour lent us their grass harrow with the condition that we borrowed the tractor it was on too, as they couldn't be doing with swapping things on and off. It was a 15 year old small ish John deere, 5820 or something like that. Anyway, Mrs G went of harrowing with it and I went drilling. She phoned me say the tractors is making a beeping noise, what's wrong. Went to have a look, it was the 500hr service alarm.......








It was due its first 500hr service!

I stick that many on the combine each season

 

[Norfolk Olly]

I am sure your daughter would be worth all of that but I have to say in my experience even £5/hr remuneration for some of the staff at the local leisure centers in Shropshire would be beyond generous. Some I would consider entirely unemployable in any role. Perhaps I am just narked off because we rang up a pool yesterday on the back of their website recommending pre-booking, was told its ok no need to book... of course when arrived the pool was full

She’s been training for 2 weeks and passed her practical exam, which for someone who has swam for the county since the age of 7 wasn’t too taxing. She is however still unqualified to answer the phone but has been trained in the use of a mop and bucket unfortunately she is yet to use that qualification at home

 

[40 series]

Surley this contracting business is no different than the haulage industry. Most of the big players near me anyway in the transport industry hire their units so all the costs are predictable ie fuel, wages, insurance etc. I would hazard a guess that tractors are no different. HP of £1500/month, covered by 3 years warranty, only really leaves the wages, fuel and insurance costs which would be a known. So the margin of profit on one tractor is multiplied over the 10 or so the contractor has and suddenly the contracting looks ok. He/she has a growing business serving growing farms who maybe pay the contractor a direct debit every month and need a relieable trustworthly contractor so the two firms grow together. I dont think depreciation needs to even come into it as the tractors are changed every 3 years and the good volume to the dealer results in a good/attractive deal. Plus the depreciation is added back into the profit for tax calculations so it is neither here nor there in a way. Just a few thoughts.

 

[mtx.jag]

Do there lads last long ? , Do they have a life ?

The tractor can have more than one driver.Out of 14 boys there I’d say 5/6 have been there 5/6 years.

 

[snarling bee]

I reckon as a contractor i spend half the time not earning anything, travelling to jobs, swapping over and fixing implements etc. There's a lot of down time

Hence you need to put in at least £25 hr for labour.
I use £30 hr labour in my costings and £35 for the combine.

 

[Caseih85]

Spoke to a chap yesterday and he was charging £50 hour for bale carting with a big tractor and trailer.

 

[ColinV6]

Had a lad carting silage for us through a contractor, just bought a new £98k tractor. He was doing it for £30 an hour. I thought it seemed cheap by the time he actually earned a wage out of it and had running costs.

 

[Pennine Ploughing]

Had a lad carting silage for us through a contractor, just bought a new £98k tractor. He was doing it for £30 an hour. I thought it seemed cheap by the time he actually earned a wage out of it and had running costs.

I know the type

 

[Courier]

Surley this contracting business is no different than the haulage industry. Most of the big players near me anyway in the transport industry hire their units so all the costs are predictable ie fuel, wages, insurance etc. I would hazard a guess that tractors are no different. HP of £1500/month, covered by 3 years warranty, only really leaves the wages, fuel and insurance costs which would be a known. So the margin of profit on one tractor is multiplied over the 10 or so the contractor has and suddenly the contracting looks ok. He/she has a growing business serving growing farms who maybe pay the contractor a direct debit every month and need a relieable trustworthly contractor so the two firms grow together. I dont think depreciation needs to even come into it as the tractors are changed every 3 years and the good volume to the dealer results in a good/attractive deal. Plus the depreciation is added back into the profit for tax calculations so it is neither here nor there in a way. Just a few thoughts.

Biggest difference is that road transport can be far less seasonal.

 

[hoff135]

Had a lad carting silage for us through a contractor, just bought a new £98k tractor. He was doing it for £30 an hour. I thought it seemed cheap by the time he actually earned a wage out of it and had running costs.

That include fuel?

 

[Agrijas]

Had a lad carting silage for us through a contractor, just bought a new £98k tractor. He was doing it for £30 an hour. I thought it seemed cheap by the time he actually earned a wage out of it and had running costs.

There you go @hoff135 the answer to your question is…..£29 an hour

 

[kiwi pom]

There are slurry contractors here doing that.
3 year old and 9000 hrs

I was getting very close to 3000 hours a year on the spreading/reeling tractor when I worked on the pumping job but some of that wasn't chargeable as we didn't charge for travelling and there was a few other jobs that weren't all chargeable. A different story if you're running shifts but I don't think that's what post I was replying to meant.

 

[mtx.jag]

60 chargeable hours a week, every week for a tractor? Very hard to do that I'd imagine.

I was getting very close to 3000 hours a year on the spreading/reeling tractor when I worked on the pumping job but some of that wasn't chargeable as we didn't charge for travelling and there was a few other jobs that weren't all chargeable. A different story if you're running shifts but I don't think that's what post I was replying to meant.

Charging 10 hours,6 days a week. Charge traveling job done
I worked for 4 years for the contractor back in 2004,I bought a fairly new mxm120 which I thought was going to last me 5 years