Going to a 750a

Discussion in 'Direct Drilling Machinery' started by Rich k, May 5, 2018.

  1. Rich k

    Rich k Member

    Hi I’m just after some help I’ve had a John Deere 750a with guttlers on demo and I’m 95% there it would be a good drill for us. especially as without it we would not have drilled 36acres this spring as it was too wet to move in the backend so just left stubble all winter and I must say I was impressed with how the drill coped and covered the seed with a odd wet patch on top. I’m just after people’s thoughts on this drill and direct drilling as I would be going from a sumo then powerharrow then horsch co4 drill setup so it would be a big change. Thanks
     
    Last edited: May 5, 2018
  2. Rich k

    Rich k Member

    Plus I forgot to add this spring I’m fed up of getting stuck with the co4 once is once too often.
     
  3. chaffcutter

    chaffcutter Moderator

    Location:
    S. Staffs
    Where to start? There’s so much info in the d.d. machinery threads already!
     
  4. SimonD

    SimonD Member

    Location:
    Dorset
    Get onto one of Simon Chiles courses.
     
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  5. Rich k

    Rich k Member

    Thanks where does Simon Chiles run his courses and how much are they I looked online and could not find any information. Thank you for your help
     
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  6. Simon Chiles

    Simon Chiles DD Moderator

    I generally run the courses in the winter months and when there is a demand. Initially there was a huge demand and I made the mistake of having too many people on a course at a time. It’s much better if the group is reasonably small. I normally find a farm willing to make the compulsory chocolate brownies although I have had several people get on a plane and fly over for courses I held here. I divide the day into two parts, the morning concentrates on the drill and the things you need to do to get the optimum performance out of it. The second part is a discussion about direct drilling as a system.
    The course costs £100/person (+vat) and you get a printout of the course notes to save you having to make your own. It also entitles you to a lifetime of 24/7 telephone support!
    PM me your phone number and I’ll give you a call.
     
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  7. Rich k

    Rich k Member

    Well I’ve joined the party and ordered a new 4m 750a should arrive first or second week in September. Talked to John Deere at cereals and they said it may come with new pro series openers but would have to check against build slot.
     
  8. Stoosh

    Stoosh Member

    Location:
    sunny scotland
    Good on ya @Rich k.

    Keep us posted on how it's all going.
     
  9. Warnesworth

    Warnesworth Member

    Location:
    Chipping Norton
    Why not just convert the CO4 with some J J Metcalfe points? A LOT cheaper, a better drill to start with etc etc etc.
     
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  10. Rich k

    Rich k Member

    For what I’m trying to achieve that would still have too much disturbance I want to move as little soil as possible to help with black grass. Otherwise yes it would have been a lot cheaper to go that way.
     
  11. Warnesworth

    Warnesworth Member

    Location:
    Chipping Norton
    So moving 12mm every 250mm is too much? I’ll bet a 750a moves that much soil with its 167mm row width.
     
  12. Rich k

    Rich k Member

    Yes too much I don’t like tine drills and that will leave a very wide band of 238mm with no seed I like the 750 for the narrower seed bands it gives you a better crop canopy to help smother rubbish a wide row gives room for rubbish to grow imo
     
  13. Rich k

    Rich k Member

    I will do. I will post some pics when I get set up and running
     
  14. Will Blackburn

    Location:
    Cheshire
    The depth control of the 750 is very useful as well as the low disturbance aspect for weed control.
     
  15. Warnesworth

    Warnesworth Member

    Location:
    Chipping Norton
    If you’re not moving the soil ‘rubbish’ is less likely to grow. Row width makes no difference at that width. Tine drills create a bit of tilth, mineralise a little more nutrient and have a wider window of soil conditions to drill into.
     
  16. Rich k

    Rich k Member

    Well what can I say we all have different ideas and I’ve seen what works for us and row width does Make a difference to crop competition and canopy but it would be no good if we all did the same thing so each to there own I say
     
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  17. Northdowns Martin

    Location:
    Snodland kent
    Hi Rich, I had the same thoughts as you and did exactly as you plan to or have done. Went from Horsch CO4 to JD 750, I'm now very glad I kept the Horsch. 750 didn't like the masses of chopper straw so drilling anything after cereals is a risk, Have put Gen openers on Horsch for OSR and cover crop planting. Read up on what @Clive is doing with his two drills (750 and CO6)
     
  18. Northdowns Martin

    Location:
    Snodland kent
    Will be trying drilling cereals on 25cm rows this autumn, have you up seed rates? Also have you altered drilling date? And just to be greedy a third question, have you found varieties or groups better for wider row drilling? ie. Groups 3s over group 1s?
     
  19. Clive

    Clive Staff Member

    Location:
    Lichfield

    as above we have run bot for a while - the converted Co is actually surprisingly low disturbance, it lacks the 750's precise depth control and ability to drill into 6ft tall covers without blocking but other than that its hard to fault, its the far better OSR and bean drill so both have their place
     
  20. Rich k

    Rich k Member

    I agree I don’t think the 750a is faultless I’m still going to use my low disturbance Subsoiler to drill rape as I can put fert on at the same time to give it a boost. Only planning on having first wheats so 750a will manly be following bean and rape stubble in winter and putting beans into Covercrops in spring.
     
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