Golden Nuggets....the 'fake meat' revolution is on its way....

[ollie989898]

A great idea they could get the laboratory in Wuhan to produce it cheap, made from Bats.

Be around the world in no time....

 

[robs1]

It's time the meat industry hit back and produced adverts extolling the environmental benefits of animals as have been described and compare it to lab grown food, as long as its as truthful as the adverts for the plastic crap there is nothing the regulator will do, unfortunately playing nice is for losers

 

[DaveGrohl]

It's time the meat industry hit back and produced adverts extolling the environmental benefits of animals as have been described and compare it to lab grown food, as long as its as truthful as the adverts for the plastic crap there is nothing the regulator will do, unfortunately playing nice is for losers

Sadly you're right. And that's why utter bollox is being repeated ad nauseam in the media and is becoming accepted fact.

 

[BrianV]

Anthony Browne MP, chair of the All Party Parliamentary Group on the Environment writes in this week's Spectator, "Britain could be at the forefront of the revolution. We love animals: we are pragmatic about new technology". Further he writes "The FSA should now consider a fast - track approval process, and develop a strategy to deal with the many issues that arise from this global industrial revolution. The change in our diet seems inevitable, and it is always better to embrace the inevitable and shape it to your advantage, than try to resist it.

The article contains some real insight as to what we are up against, for instance, "There are strong arguments in favour of cultured meat. The most obvious is animal welfare. Like most of us I enjoy juicy steaks, crispy bacon and roast chicken, but I also love animals: around the world 80 billion animals are killed to eat each year" It would therefore appear to follow from a welfarist's perspective that no existence at all is better than an existence where death occurs prematurely and you are eaten. Death occurs to all living organisms, the logic that underlies this outlook is therefore no life is preferable to a short one, personally I'll take the short one if that is all that is on offer.

Here is what I think is the most important part "One research report forecast that by 2040, one third of all meat production in the world will be cultured - an industry opportunity worth billions of dollars". There we have it. It has nothing to do with welfare, large powerful corporations see the chance to make mega bucks and will sell the welfare story to steal our livelihoods.

AW

Sadly there are now more pillocks in the Tory party than even the Labour party, local constituency leaders must take the blame for putting these fools forward & must make it plain to them that they are on borrowed time!

 

[BrianV]

It's time the meat industry hit back and produced adverts extolling the environmental benefits of animals as have been described and compare it to lab grown food, as long as its as truthful as the adverts for the plastic crap there is nothing the regulator will do, unfortunately playing nice is for losers

It's not the meat industry that needs to hit back it's all farmers & especially the useless NFU, sewage is our ace in the hole, we can stop the disposal of it at a moments notice with absolutely no cost to any farmer!
Simply the threat of a moratorium of sewage acceptance would bring this country to it's knees, all that is needed is for the NFU to grow a pair!!

 

[N.Yorks.]

The trouble is as i get older I see it more, for everything your told about doing the perceived "right" the more i see a whole load of negatives that seem to never get consideration.

Just one very small example. I've just checked my calving cows out field and there must have been a hundred swallows feeding frantically on flies swooping around everywhere.

When the cows are not in the field and the meat is grown in a lab what will the swallows eat then? Next thing you know there will be a cattle reintroduction scheme as the swallows have all but disappeared because there are no cattle to attract the flies................. and so it goes on.

They think they are doing right but are so blinkered they can't see the bigger picture, and the mentality is everywhere i look.

Todays issues aren't black and white and solutions are complex.... a solution being good in one set of circumstances can also be incorrect in another!

Then there is the bright idea to make a solution commercial and the marketing juggernaut takes over and the sheep (some people) follow and it all becomes mainstream then we wake up and it was the wrong thing to do and it starts again........

Too many people again........wanting everything they don't actually need and not being happy with that....!

 

[GeorgeC1]

Anthony Browne MP, chair of the All Party Parliamentary Group on the Environment writes in this week's Spectator, "Britain could be at the forefront of the revolution. We love animals: we are pragmatic about new technology". Further he writes "The FSA should now consider a fast - track approval process, and develop a strategy to deal with the many issues that arise from this global industrial revolution. The change in our diet seems inevitable, and it is always better to embrace the inevitable and shape it to your advantage, than try to resist it.

The article contains some real insight as to what we are up against, for instance, "There are strong arguments in favour of cultured meat. The most obvious is animal welfare. Like most of us I enjoy juicy steaks, crispy bacon and roast chicken, but I also love animals: around the world 80 billion animals are killed to eat each year" It would therefore appear to follow from a welfarist's perspective that no existence at all is better than an existence where death occurs prematurely and you are eaten. Death occurs to all living organisms, the logic that underlies this outlook is therefore no life is preferable to a short one, personally I'll take the short one if that is all that is on offer.

Here is what I think is the most important part "One research report forecast that by 2040, one third of all meat production in the world will be cultured - an industry opportunity worth billions of dollars". There we have it. It has nothing to do with welfare, large powerful corporations see the chance to make mega bucks and will sell the welfare story to steal our livelihoods.

AW

Not really stealing your livelihoods you will just need to adapt your business to survive, there will always be a "real meat" market and there will always be the need for land for farming (either vertically, etc..)

 

[GeorgeC1]

So we have a population of people who are being told to buy local and source decent product, made through artisan or traditional methods etc etc etc and magically they are all going to want to eat something vat grown in a laboratory? Ethical or not, I'm not sure I want to eat something that is 'manufactured' that way. I try my best to avoid processed carp as it is, I don't eat chicken nuggets or what-are-you-carcass meat products besides the odd pork pie. The idea of lab grown fungus is bad enough much less replacement mheat(TM)/phood(TM) you strain out of a vat into a bottle before it rapidly congeals like last night's gravy.

I know you wasn't being literal but it doesn't come in a bottle, it looks like mince or a patte, most lab grown meats will be used in processed foods and Mcdonalds.

 

[ollie989898]

I know you wasn't being literal but it doesn't come in a bottle, it looks like mince or a patte, most lab grown meats will be used in processed foods and Mcdonalds.

I don't mind what packaging it comes in, I just don't like the idea of heavily processed gunge being sold as 'food'.

 

[ski]

Not really stealing your livelihoods you will just need to adapt your business to survive, there will always be a "real meat" market and there will always be the need for land for farming (either vertically, etc..)

Oh George, you're so clever!

 

[AIMS]

It is likely that many in Anthony Browne MP's constituency of South Cambridgeshire will disagree with his views along with many across the rest of the country.
I see he used to be in Banking, an industry that has benefitted from heavy government bailouts in the past.
Check out his website: Anthony Browne | MP for South Cambridgeshire

 

[wrenbird]

He has also been a journalist specialising in the environment and economics. Interestingly, a man with the same name as his brother, is a director of something called the "Vegan Network", based in Manchester. It could just be co-incidence of course, might not be any relation.
MP Browne also seems to be rather keen on re-wilding, judging by his Facebook page. His MP bio describes him as being born on a village farm.

 

[Storeman]

Not really stealing your livelihoods you will just need to adapt your business to survive, there will always be a "real meat" market and there will always be the need for land for farming (either vertically, etc..)

 

[Spuddler]

Personally I think all the cultured meat market won’t take off as people think.
Take builders, wagon drivers etc they all want there “cheeky” fry up for the day. A lot of younger people want a proper burger,then you get into the proper roast clientele. as well as older folk who aren’t going to eat this rubbish anyway. Restaurants are always going to want meat.

 

[AIMS]

It's time the meat industry hit back and produced adverts extolling the environmental benefits of animals as have been described and compare it to lab grown food, as long as its as truthful as the adverts for the plastic crap there is nothing the regulator will do, unfortunately playing nice is for losers

They already do. AHBD's Eat Balanced and both HCC and QMS have some excellent SM assets

 

[roscoe erf]

I remember someone on here recently described lab grown meat as basically a tumour, which is essentially what it is.

We should all endeavour to describe it as such, at every opportunity. I can’t see the idea of eating something associated with that description being particularly appealing to anyone.

I used to play the tuber at school

 

[ski]

Personally I think all the cultured meat market won’t take off as people think.
Take builders, wagon drivers etc they all want there “cheeky” fry up for the day. A lot of younger people want a proper burger,then you get into the proper roast clientele. as well as older folk who aren’t going to eat this rubbish anyway. Restaurants are always going to want meat.

I hope you are correct but I fear you are not. We are all suggestible, we all have things we have bought we do not need, we all think we are rational and others are not. Propaganda is the great success of the last 60 odd years, it is a multi billion dollar industry.

 

[Farfrae]

I've posted this before but it is all there in plain sight but you don't want to see.; particularly pages 6 and 7. Note particularly 2030 to 2049 Beef and lamb phased out.

https://www.ukfires.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Absolute-Zero-online.pdf

 

[robs1]

They already do. AHBD's Eat Balanced and both HCC and QMS have some excellent SM assets

I've never seen them on telly and are they hard hitting enough to counter the crap the vegans et al put out, they fight dirty we need to too, the supermarkets are quite happy to slag each other off in adverts we need to fo the same

 

[DaveGrohl]

I've posted this before but it is all there in plain sight but you don't want to see.; particularly pages 6 and 7. Note particularly 2030 to 2049 Beef and lamb phased out.

https://www.ukfires.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Absolute-Zero-online.pdf

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Had a quick look at that and it's really quite comical. It's a wish list. They don't understand the basics of methane from ruminants, hey ho, most of these "clever" people who get funding don't either even though it's not difficult to grasp. Banning cattle and sheep and reducing fert usage at the same time, that's quite some trick to pull off. Bravo. Mankind gets thicker by the day.