Goodbye Britannia!

[arcobob]

That’s not at all helpful with the state of the potato trade

I could not agree more. Both farmer and supermarket are to blame. Bring back the PMB I say.

 

[robs1]

More in the uk apparently!
There were 4.2 million UK children living in poverty in 2019, according to Government figures. That is estimated to be 30 per cent of kids in the country, or nine for every class of 30 pupils, and it is double the poverty rate of pensioners. That figure rises to nearly 45 per cent for kids with single parents.

France ,
Indeed, 440 000 children would have since dived ( since covid ), with their families, in precarious situations, bringing the number of poor children in France to 3 million. This is a major step-back, especially if considering that one must account for 6 generations to overcome poverty

And yet 1 in 3 are classed as obese, in reality both figures cant be right. It's funny if you drive through "poor" areas houses and flats are covered in sky dishes etc.

 

[arcobob]

And yet 1 in 3 are classed as obese, in reality both figures cant be right. It's funny if you drive through "poor" areas houses and flats are covered in sky dishes etc.

Poverty is a relative term and can mean anything. Are these kids suffering the depravation of not having a Sky dish or a play station or are they underfed. The statistics point to the latter not being the case so they must in some part refer to other material things in life. It would be as well to know exactly what is giving rise to this perceived poverty and how can it be corrected. I am pretty sure I know some of the reasons and they centre around single parent syndrome and drug abuse.

 

[robs1]

Poverty is a relative term and can mean anything. Are these kids suffering the depravation of not having a Sky dish or a play station or are they underfed. The statistics point to the latter not being the case so they must in some part refer to other material things in life. It would be as well to know exactly what is giving rise to this perceived poverty and how can it be corrected. I am pretty sure I know some of the reasons and they centre around single parent syndrome and drug abuse.

My mrs is a health visitor so at the coal face do to speak, money or lack of it is not always the main issue, some families can feed themselves without trouble on very small incomes, some cant do it on far higher ones, it's about spending priorities something we dont seem to educate into people these days

 

[Ashtree]

I’m still eating my taties from last year. Helps that of four of us living here now, only my boss and I favour taties over shyte from a packet.
And of course roosters! Can’t beat them for storage!

 

[Raider112]

My wife showed me a piece on her phone from one of the papers, not sure which one, the journalist was having a really good moan due to the fact that as a remainer he could no longer gloat about how badly the Country was doing, particularly on the vaccine. He was trying to give a bit of credit without going overboard as he preferred to criticise everything to do with Brexit but all he did, unintentionally, was to demonstrate how much the Remainers enjoyed seeing their own Country's misfortune.
It just reminded me of the British born on this forum who always deny when challenged that they wish anything but the best for the UK in spite of nearly everything they post showing the opposite.
I honestly don't get the bile and bitterness from people who have been shown to be a minority.

 

[bobk]

Goodbye Nicholas Sarkozy , no cake just porridge

Sarkozy: Former French president sentenced to jail for corruption

The ex-president, found guilty of trying to bribe a judge, will remain free while he appeals.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Pasty]

Goodbye Nicholas Sarkozy , no cake just porridge

Sarkozy: Former French president sentenced to jail for corruption

The ex-president, found guilty of trying to bribe a judge, will remain free while he appeals.

www.bbc.co.uk

Hilarious. I wonder what Napoleon will end up being charged with.

 

[Muck Spreader]

Goodbye Nicholas Sarkozy , no cake just porridge

Sarkozy: Former French president sentenced to jail for corruption

The ex-president, found guilty of trying to bribe a judge, will remain free while he appeals.

www.bbc.co.uk

It's the difference between France and the UK, cronyism and corruption isn't tolerated no matter who you are. What are the chances of Bozza, Wankock et al, ever having to face justice over their far greater crimes?

 

[bobk]

It's the difference between France and the UK, cronyism and corruption isn't tolerated no matter who you are. What are the chances of Bozza, Wankock et al, ever having to face justice over their far greater crimes?

What greater crimes ....

 

[Muck Spreader]

What greater crimes ....

I take it you are having a laugh or just naive.

 

[Raider112]

I take it you are having a laugh or just naive.

Trying to bribe a magistrate must be fairly serious, what have they done that's worse as I'm a bit naive

 

[bobk]

Trying to bribe a magistrate must be fairly serious, what have they done that's worse as I'm a bit naive

Isn't that perjury or perverting the course of justice ?

 

[czechmate]

Isn't that perjury or perverting the course of justice ?

Doesn’t seem like he will ever do porridge...

 

[bobk]

Doesn’t seem like he will ever do porridge...

Yes , house arrest with his rather attractive wife

 

[czechmate]

Yes , house arrest with his rather attractive wife

Well, he’s free while the appeal takes place which will take years.

 

[Muck Spreader]

Trying to bribe a magistrate must be fairly serious, what have they done that's worse as I'm a bit naive

To pick one thing out of many. I would suggest the prorogation of Parliament and the deliberate lying to the Queen in order to block any parliamentary scrutiny of Boris's Brexit plans. This was later deemed an illegal act by both the Supreme courts in England and Scotland.

 

[br jones]

To pick one thing out of many. I would suggest the prorogation of Parliament and the deliberate lying to the Queen in order to block any parliamentary scrutiny of Boris's Brexit plans. This was later deemed an illegal act by both the Supreme courts in England and Scotland.

John majors in the dock aswell then ,t bliar lied to parliment ,the list is endless

 

[wanton dwarf]

Boris Johnson- The Inveterate Liar.!

The then French ambassador to the UK, Sylvie Bermann, with Boris Johnson in 2016.

Boris Johnson is “an unrepentant and inveterate liar” who feels he is not subject to the same rules as others, Sylvie Bermann, the former French ambassador to the UK during the Brexit vote, says in a new book.

She also claims some Brexiters are consumed with hatred for Germany and gripped by a myth that they liberated Europe on their own, describing Brexit as a triumph of emotion over reason, won by a campaign full of lies in which negative attitudes to migration were exploited by figures such as Johnson and Michael Gove.

Bermann, who served as the French ambassador to the UK from 2014 to 2017 and has been one of the most senior diplomats in the French diplomatic service, including as ambassador to China and to Russia, assesses the British handling of the Covid pandemic as among the worst in the world alongside that of Donald Trump and Jair Bolsonaro in Brazil. She predicts Johnson will seek to use Covid to mask the true economic cost of Brexit on the UK economy.

Johnson, she says, comes from an Eton and Oxford University class that believes they are entitled to use language to provoke. Describing him as intelligent and charming, she says he uses “lies to embellish reality, as a game and as instrument of power. The ends justify the means. He has no rules.”
Asked at a Royal United Services Institute think tank event about her description of him as an unrepentant liar, she said: “He would not object to being called that. He knows he is a liar. He has always played with that. He was fired from his first post for that reason.”

In her book, Goodbye Britannia, she seeks to define the psyche that led to Brexit. She describes “the partisans of Brexit as reciting a history in which the UK is never defeated, never invaded”. She suggests a country that considers it singlehandedly won the second world war, liberating the continent and deserving of gratitude.

Referencing the more than 22 million Russians who died in the war, she says “this does not disturb the discourse of the Brexiters who peddle the myth that the UK liberated Europe alone and needs no one”.

She adds that France does have a debt of gratitude to the British, but “it is right to remember that they were not alone and you cannot live with a history that stopped in June 1944”.

“The corollary of an England saving Europe,” she adds, “is a detestation of Germany and contempt for cowardice – the term is often used for those who allowed themselves to be occupied, not to mention collaborated.”

The British account of the second world war, relayed in films such as Dunkirk, she says, led to loss of confidence in the EU as an instrument of peace.

She admits she did not believe the Brexit referendum would be lost by David Cameron’s government, pointing out that both sides of the debate had told her the same. In retrospect, she viewed the defeat as the first crisis of electoral democracy, and the harbinger of the populism that has been followed through in the US and Europe.

“David Cameron was always telling other heads of government that he would win and he rejected any help from EU countries,” she told Rusi. She said that if Cameron had warned the EU that he was going to lose, Europe would have come up with some new offer on migration. British ministers told her that they might win with as much as 60% of the vote.
In the book, she asks: “How this country whose influence had been decisive in Brussels, which insolently rolled out the red carpet for French entrepreneurs and which Xi Jinping had elected in October 2015 as the gateway to Europe, at the dawn of a golden period, how has it undertaken to scuttle itself?”

She predicts: “Boris Johnson’s temptation will be to hide the bill for Brexit under the Covid carpet, valued at more than £200bn for 2020, almost as much as the United Kingdom’s total contribution to the European Union since its accession in 1973, which was £215bn.”

She says it is inevitable that the UK will struggle now to find influence outside the EU, and has a Scottish independence referendum hanging over its head.

She says she believes the EU would feel obliged to open talks with Scotland in the event of a referendum vote to leave the UK, but that is not the official EU position, partly due to pressure from Spain. Madrid fears the knock-on impact among Catalan separatists if an independent Scotland was allowed to join the EU.

Discuss

So basically you are using someone's opinion of the UK to push a Remoaner agenda.

You need to get some professional help; you have a literally pathological obsession regarding Brexit and all surrounding it.

Have to agree with @Danllan .. FFS get a life that doesn't revolve around criticising the UK in which you no longer live.

 

[czechmate]

John majors in the dock aswell then ,t bliar lied to parliment ,the list is endless

What is john Major in the dock for?