Goodbye suckler cows no ai service.

BAF

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son trained up, but we are dairy, and block calve, at service time, there is simply to much to do, so we use a chap, conception rate has gone up, nearly 70% to 1st service, stupid to change what works so well. we may well have 10+ a day.
Chap I work for is DIY trained but same sort of thing time restraints and a 99% conception rate on all the heifers at first service courtesy of the AI man. The 1 that didn't hold is a suspected free Martin.
 

Sid

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Maybe connected?
 
It's quite big. Chap who used to work for me got trained in ai so I bought it on his advice. Don't know much about it though really. Our experiment with ai in replacement suckers was not a success.
 

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som farmer

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It's quite big. Chap who used to work for me got trained in ai so I bought it on his advice. Don't know much about it though really. Our experiment with ai in replacement suckers was not a success.
results depend on many things become right together
detection
skill of AI er, and its a skill that needs regular practice, 6 moths between service, takes to long to get it 'right' again, our AI block, is 10/11 months apart
and time to do a proper job with it, it cannot be rushed.
that's why we pay someone to do it.

we get good results from AI-ing replacement hfrs, we use a cheap and simple sync programme, serve for 7/8 days, estrumate those not served, usually gets 90%+ in the 3 week window, conception rate, is down to skill of the AI-er.
 

Enry

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I will probably get shot down in flames here, but Genus are a commercial company and with the share price shown above, I can bet my bottom dollar that there will be pressure on all parts of the business to cut costs and increase efficiency - as we have had to do for many years. That will include reviewing many parts of the business and deciding what to let go. They like others are probably struggling for staff and the 80/20 rule will come into play - turning up onto a 500 cow unit to do RMS where they serve 4-5 cows every visit and sell 1500 straws of semen is going to be much more viable than travelling miles to cover a smaller suckler herd. With fuel at £2/litre and staff issues they will probably end up cutting back more. In many ways their strength was inheriting the old MMB business with national coverage, but it may now be a weakness - competitors will only set up where the herd numbers and logistics add up, they certainly won't bother in the remote areas with low numbers of herds. Mate of mine farms inside the M25 - his RMS tech could spend 2hrs stuck in traffic some days!
 
I will probably get shot down in flames here, but Genus are a commercial company and with the share price shown above, I can bet my bottom dollar that there will be pressure on all parts of the business to cut costs and increase efficiency - as we have had to do for many years. That will include reviewing many parts of the business and deciding what to let go. They like others are probably struggling for staff and the 80/20 rule will come into play - turning up onto a 500 cow unit to do RMS where they serve 4-5 cows every visit and sell 1500 straws of semen is going to be much more viable than travelling miles to cover a smaller suckler herd. With fuel at £2/litre and staff issues they will probably end up cutting back more. In many ways their strength was inheriting the old MMB business with national coverage, but it may now be a weakness - competitors will only set up where the herd numbers and logistics add up, they certainly won't bother in the remote areas with low numbers of herds. Mate of mine farms inside the M25 - his RMS tech could spend 2hrs stuck in traffic some days!
Totally agree
 

Bald n Grumpy

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I will probably get shot down in flames here, but Genus are a commercial company and with the share price shown above, I can bet my bottom dollar that there will be pressure on all parts of the business to cut costs and increase efficiency - as we have had to do for many years. That will include reviewing many parts of the business and deciding what to let go. They like others are probably struggling for staff and the 80/20 rule will come into play - turning up onto a 500 cow unit to do RMS where they serve 4-5 cows every visit and sell 1500 straws of semen is going to be much more viable than travelling miles to cover a smaller suckler herd. With fuel at £2/litre and staff issues they will probably end up cutting back more. In many ways their strength was inheriting the old MMB business with national coverage, but it may now be a weakness - competitors will only set up where the herd numbers and logistics add up, they certainly won't bother in the remote areas with low numbers of herds. Mate of mine farms inside the M25 - his RMS tech could spend 2hrs stuck in traffic some days!
Not disagreeing with you but if they had supplied a decent service all the time and not ridden on the old mmb for the last how long then perhaps their share price would be better. As I said in a previous post genus staff set up on their own and genus was gone round here overnight, that was over 20 years ago. They do a lot of petty silly things . Want to buy some semen that's stored with them and it's going to cost a hell of a lot more to shift than if I could get elsewhere.
 

nelly55

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Any other companies that will store semen,I have a lot in long term storage with genus from some very old blood lines and paying too much .Farm flask would be no good.
 

Enry

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It's a global business now and I understand that the issues are down to the pig business in China - some of the ones who set up on their own don't realise the cost of providing a 365d service, van, fuel, relief cover etc.
 

som farmer

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somerset
I will probably get shot down in flames here, but Genus are a commercial company and with the share price shown above, I can bet my bottom dollar that there will be pressure on all parts of the business to cut costs and increase efficiency - as we have had to do for many years. That will include reviewing many parts of the business and deciding what to let go. They like others are probably struggling for staff and the 80/20 rule will come into play - turning up onto a 500 cow unit to do RMS where they serve 4-5 cows every visit and sell 1500 straws of semen is going to be much more viable than travelling miles to cover a smaller suckler herd. With fuel at £2/litre and staff issues they will probably end up cutting back more. In many ways their strength was inheriting the old MMB business with national coverage, but it may now be a weakness - competitors will only set up where the herd numbers and logistics add up, they certainly won't bother in the remote areas with low numbers of herds. Mate of mine farms inside the M25 - his RMS tech could spend 2hrs stuck in traffic some days!
our old milking machine tester, retired, so genus, application in, 2 months later, acknowledgement, another 2 months for an 'appointment', plenty in-between about their consultants. Those 4 months, led to a re-visit, by RT, even though we received a postcard, visit the monday following the friday RT visit, no more than 12 months between tests.
the re-visit was unannounced, and probably the easiest/best inspection we have ever had.
 

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