Gove congratulates Packham?

icanshootwell

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Ross-on-wye
Just ask teachers what they thought of him as the education secretary. They should ban politicians from education and let the experts get on with it. Do you remember what Gove did to Bojo after the last election!! Anyone who smiles through their teeth is not to be trusted.
Yes i remember, It stopped Borris running for PM, We would be in a better place now if he was.
 

Surgery

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Oxford
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I always think he looks as if his fingers have just gone up through the toilet paper.
 

DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
A slimy toad.

There is much joy in seeing 30 tonners hauling out the yard laden with beet, wheat, barley, OSR and lambs. That's the real joy of farming and banking a big fat cheque for quality produce and lots of it.

There's no joy in rewilding and all that crap, just briars, vermin and all that bollox.

They will never get that though will they?
 

Two Tone

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Mixed Farmer
My theory is he was put there in the brexit camp to stop Boris getting the top job and he did a very good job of it
We can all speculate as to the true motives of all the politicians involved on both sides.
Some appeared genuinely more committed than others and definitely came over as being so in the TV debates that took place before the referendum. Andrea Leadsom and Gisela Stewart, for instance.

Much as I think that Gove is a snake, I actually think he came over as slightly more committed to Leave than Boris. Boris sent a text to David Cameron 9 minutes before he went on TV to say he would be supporting Leave, telling him that he would be doing so, but that he expected Leave to be crushed.

Was it all originally planned, thinking that it would fail and get the subject of the EU off the political agenda?
Remember the ridiculous statement on the side of the bus? It is almost like they tried to scupper their own side.

IMO both Gove and Boris want the top job and both saw this as their key to number 10. What neither of them realised is that the cause they used as the lever to do so, would actually win.
Hoping instead that when the real opportunity arose, that all Leave voters would support them to become PM.

Is this still Boris’s motive and why he comes over as even more committed to a hard Brexit now, than he came over as being so before the referendum?

As for Gove, I think he has shot himself in the foot now. Just look at his speech at Oxford last year, which was to some extent inspirational and compare it to this year, which was total bulls**t and waffle!
 
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turbo

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Arable Farmer
Location
lincs
We can all speculate as to the true motives of all the politicians involved on both sides.
Some appeared genuinely more committed than others and definitely came over as being so in the TV debates that took place before the referendum. Andrea Leadsom and Gisela Stewart, for instance.

Much as I think that I think that Gove is a snake, I actually think he came over as slightly more committed to Leave than Boris. Boris sent a text to David Cameron 9 minutes before he went on TV to say he would be supporting Leave, telling him that he would be doing so, but that he expected Leave to be crushed.

Was it all originally planned, thinking that it would fail and get the subject of the EU off the political agenda?
Remember the ridiculous statement on the side of the bus? It is almost like they tried to scupper their own side.

IMO both Gove and Boris want the top job and both saw this as their key to number 10. What neither of them realised is that the cause they used as the lever to do so, would actually win.
Hoping instead that when the real opportunity arose, that all Leave voters would support them to become PM.

Is this still Boris’s motive and why he comes over as even more committed to a hard Brexit now, than he came over as being so before the referendum?

As for Gove, I think he has shot himself in the foot now. Just look at his speech at Oxford last year, which was to some extent inspirational and compare it to this year, which was total bullpoo and waffle!
The way gove has changed his mind to back mays deal shows he wasn’t ever committed to it in the first place,if he had backed Boris and he had gone in a head to head contest with may who do you think the grass roots would of backed?This way he split the vote and knew neither would get any chance of getting the leaders job shows what his true intentions were
 

Exfarmer

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Location
Bury St Edmunds
Gove was always a very committed Brexiteer. He has spent his life campaigning against the EU.
Boris on the other hand is a consummate politician of the old public school patrician kind , who believe they were born to lead. He honestly believed that Brexit was lost as he was always a committed remainer. He thought by putting his oar in when he did would put him in pole position with both right and left of the conservative party after Cameron stood down sometime in the future. He called wrong , as did so many.

Gove is no friend of the Eton club, they all despise him as bumpkin. He has absolutely no time for any of them unless they are useful to him
 

Happy

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Location
Scotland
Gove is no friend of the Eton club, they all despise him as bumpkin. He has absolutely no time for any of them unless they are useful to him

Just the rabid environmentalist ones he needs to fund his constituency election campaign in return for a seat on the board of Defra then.
 

Two Tone

Member
Mixed Farmer
With a bit of Luck, Gove won't be in his present job for much longer. If it should turn out to be a hard Brexit, Food production will need to be prioritized more and rewilding less. Which isn't what his priorities or vision is right now.

Maybe that is why he is supporting Mrs. May's deal.
Or maybe it is because he doesn't relish the job of doing what will actually become necessary if we got a hard Brexit!

Turncoat snake or what?
 

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