Apologies if there is already a thread open on this. Couldn't find it .. but then I'm a thick, ancient and creaky, over the hill, should be nowhere near any livestock or anywhere on a farm, farmer. Am I the only one who objects to the BBC slant in the news this am about the government farmer retirement incentive? Farmers are to be given £50000 to persuade them to 'move over' and retire so that younger people can start farming as they will have a much better attitude and be much more receptive to environmental schemes which will be of much more benefit than than current farming. OK. There are true points in that but the non farming public are only hearing half the picture? I understood the payment was a once off payment to replace any single farm payment that might be due going forward but the way it was reported, it sounded like a gift. Inheritance issues and the farmers position .. how retired is retired etc .. is not clear enough. It also sounded like none of us were interested in doing environmental / wildlife schemes, only a new young entrant would be. I'm sure a lot on here would disagree with that, although unless you have a lot of surplus land, its a challenge for a dairy farm. It also made it sound that by ancients 'retiring', a new entrant would find it easy to start farming in their own right. If only that were true. I have every sympathy for a genuinely enthusiastic youngster wishing to get into dairy farming. Every year when we renew the farm insurance I wonder how on earth a youngster could ever realistically get into dairying. A scheme to support new entrants and encourage 'ancients' to keep farming to pass on knowledge might be the only way they can get on the ladder. If we retired tomorrow, sold up, moved into a modern house somewhere .. its NOT going to happen!! .. how would that help a new young entrant? Lockdown did quieten down farmer bashing for a bit but its all started up again along with the environmentally friendly holiday flights. Perhaps I'm being too sensitive about the BBC today. Must be age!! On second thoughts, it probably tiredness after nursing a sick cow throughout the night. ... but I'm forgetting, we don't care for our livestock etc do we!
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primmiemoo
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It's curiously muddled reporting, imv. Somebody who doesn't know a thing about farming, farmers, or the culture bit of agriculture skewing press releases from a government department that should know better.
For one thing, nature friendly farming isn't marked out by age groups. Off the top of my head I can think of two younger farmers who have razed the nature friendly elements of each block of off ground their diversified businesses have bought.
For one thing, nature friendly farming isn't marked out by age groups. Off the top of my head I can think of two younger farmers who have razed the nature friendly elements of each block of off ground their diversified businesses have bought.
At least 2 other threads on the go. As I said in another thread, it " only " seems to be 2.5 x your yearly sub upfront. I recon many will take the cash and carry on farming without the shackles that go with taking the shilling......have I planted too close to that hedge......should I have widened that gateway....etc. After 30 years of this crap, oldies like me will feel like a prison sentence has ended, and can get stuck into " proper " farming. 
See!! I said I was ancient & creaky. Sorry. I'll now go and do a 'like for your post as fully agree with it! Think I can manage that!At least 2 other threads on the go. As I said in another thread, it " only " seems to be 2.5 x your yearly sub upfront. I recon many will take the cash and carry on farming without the shackles that go with taking the shilling......have I planted too close to that hedge......should I have widened that gateway....etc. After 30 years of this crap, oldies like me will feel like a prison sentence has ended, and can get stuck into " proper " farming.
The sooner all payments go the better,that means everything .If the public moan about sfp now just wait until the money starts rolling for greening etc.Look at the payouts on wind turbines,ED plants for goodness sake this sodding country wants to wake up.Shout loudest and you get your way,say the wrong word and it’s hell on you.Let’s face it the ones shouting in goverment now will not be happy until all land is open to the public,no farming whatsoever and we import everything so we can kiss our suppliers backsides.Let’s all get on with the job we do ,no money ,no control.As for environment issues just look at how many are happy to jump on a plane this week.I won’t be voting Tory ,Boris get your backside out to meet real farmers and get to know real facts.Infact Boris her in doors makes a good cup of tea and cake and she won’t hold back telling you a few home truths.
My mrs worked for the nhs, got a very large lump sum from the pension at 55 and can carry on working doing part time in the same place as before, I reckon Icpuld take the cash give her the farm and she pays me to run it, no different to her situation in many ways. This stupid scheme is open to lots of fraud
Knowing how, with no authority, 'her indoors' influenced 'him in power' over TB issues that had a profound detrimental mental and financial effect on many farmers and how 'her indoors' is also looking to change transport rules within the uk .. a separate issue to live exports but being lumped together in the same proposal .. I wouldn't agree that her 'home truths over a cup of tea' is anything that should fill us with hope or joy but to be afraid, very, very afraid. Aaah oops just re read your post! Its YOUR her indoors!! Well that's different!! I thought you meant Boris's! Maybe HE should be afraid, very, very afraid!!!! He better get the dog to sample the tea and cake first!!
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2.5 times naff all is still naff all.
I’m still out (or more accurately still in).
I’m still out (or more accurately still in).
primmiemoo
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From World at One on Radio 4, it's all a bit too vague for the chaps interviewed to say much about.
Well done to the YFC chap for disagreeing with Defra's statement that nature friendly farming is something that older farmers are failing to do. He said some sensible things, I felt.
Well done to the YFC chap for disagreeing with Defra's statement that nature friendly farming is something that older farmers are failing to do. He said some sensible things, I felt.
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If they want to force my father to retire they might as well deduct the cost of the coffin off the bribe and supply that as well, it sadly won’t be sitting around unused for long.
I think that’s true in much of the industry though, retirement will kill them off.
I think that’s true in much of the industry though, retirement will kill them off.