Grain dryer gas - Cylinder suppliers?

[Rookie]

Struggling to find gas for our Opico 590 grain dryer. Not used it for a few years. In the past it has run with a bank of 6 gas cylinders. These are Calor 46kg propane liquid off take / Black top cylinders.
Can't seem to find any other suppliers which do these apart from Calor.
Lincoln main Calor depot last year only had 2 in stock and were going to be a week or more before getting anymore in. Phoned today and all you can do is leave a message and wait until somebody decides to contact you back due to coronavirus.
Are there any other suppliers (Lincs / Notts) or do I have to go down the bulk tank route which I know is a cheaper way of buying the gas but for the amount we use didn't want a tank sat idle for a few years with the risk of the gas disappearing.
TIA

 

[Will Blackburn]

I don’t think gas disappears like oil.

 

[Rookie]

I don’t think gas disappears like oil.

Had a set of new cylinders in the past and not needed them for a year or so, and then found that they had lots a lot of the contents, even though valves seemed to be shut tight.? Therefore I have generally only ordered it as required.

 

[organic antares]

We have used Flo Gas in the past, have got a local place I can collect from currently

 

[Rookie]

We have used Flo Gas in the past, have got a local place I can collect from currently

I enquired with flo gas last year but was told that they don't do the liquid off take propane in cylinders, just bulk tank?

 

[Rookie]

These are my current calor empty cylinders.

 

[Deranged peasant]

I did enquire for liquid off take bottles in the spring , similarly not used mobile for years but had some of last years harvest to sort out.
After a week or so Calor came back with some, don’t remember the price but was a lot ! Managed to blend wheat away in the end.
Buying group conclusion was bulk tank only way forward.
Not done anything btw !

 

[basford]

Try Woldlink 01507 605230

 

[chaffcutter]

Buy a secondhand tank, then you can buy anywhere and it gives you the clout to do so. Found Flogas to give a poor delivery service and expensive to boot. Local independent supplier saved us a lot of money.

 

[cornishking]

Struggling to find gas for our Opico 590 grain dryer. Not used it for a few years. In the past it has run with a bank of 6 gas cylinders. These are Calor 46kg propane liquid off take / Black top cylinders.
Can't seem to find any other suppliers which do these apart from Calor.
Lincoln main Calor depot last year only had 2 in stock and were going to be a week or more before getting anymore in. Phoned today and all you can do is leave a message and wait until somebody decides to contact you back due to coronavirus.
Are there any other suppliers (Lincs / Notts) or do I have to go down the bulk tank route which I know is a cheaper way of buying the gas but for the amount we use didn't want a tank sat idle for a few years with the risk of the gas disappearing.
TIA

Evening, we had a opico years ago and one very wet season there wasn't any liquid offtake cylinders left anywhere. The local opico dealer suggested that all we had to do was turn the vapour offtake cylinders upside down and they become liquid offtake! Anyway it does work and saved the season. We had a bit of a fiddle with fittings and balancing cylinders upside down but it works! We got a tank the following year good luck

 

[Rookie]

Thanks for peoples help.
Managed to source some more 46kg calor cylinders from an area manager who was helpful, unlike local depot who don't return calls. (£56.30+vat each).
I'll hopefully get through this season then I'll have to look at going bulk. Thought you had to get a tank from supplier so it met criteria for them to fill it.?

 

[DealeyPlaza1963]

Just bought 2 x 47kg for a new lpg CH installation from Gas2U at Epworth 01427 753689- £62 inc vat each with free delivery and fantastic service. If he'll deliver to your area I'll be very happy to recommend.

 

[Frodo]

How long does a 47kg bottle last? I.e how many tonnes taking from say 20% to 15%.
In a year like this a small opico dryer would be nice, but having to get a base and tank is another hassle.

 

[DealeyPlaza1963]

How long does a 47kg bottle last? I.e how many tonnes taking from say 20% to 15%.
In a year like this a small opico dryer would be nice, but having to get a base and tank is another hassle.

Just googled (other search engines available) and found this on a thread asking the same;

Cylinder Kg x 1.957 = Litres
x 7.11 = Kw energy of cylinder
divide by appliance input
= Total hours use of cylinder

Does that help?

 

[Frodo]

Just googled (other search engines available) and found this on a thread asking the same;

Cylinder Kg x 1.957 = Litres
x 7.11 = Kw energy of cylinder
divide by appliance input
= Total hours use of cylinder

Does that help?

Not really, but thank you anyway.

 

[Frodo]

Just googled (other search engines available) and found this on a thread asking the same;

Cylinder Kg x 1.957 = Litres
x 7.11 = Kw energy of cylinder
divide by appliance input
= Total hours use of cylinder

Does that help?

Not really, but thank you anyway.

 

[Flatwheels]

Have you tried Gas Direct at Long Bennington 01400282626

 

[Rookie]

Just bought 2 x 47kg for a new lpg CH installation from Gas2U at Epworth 01427 753689- £62 inc vat each with free delivery and fantastic service. If he'll deliver to your area I'll be very happy to recommend.

I suspect that these will be like calor’s standard 47kg propane cylinders which won’t be liquid take off, and I would have to stand them upside down as @cornishking mentioned above. But thanks anyway.

 

[Rookie]

Have you tried Gas Direct at Long Bennington 01400282626

Thanks, I tried them as we get get acetylene and oxygen from them but they don’t do the large liquid off take cylinders.

 

[Rookie]

How long does a 47kg bottle last? I.e how many tonnes taking from say 20% to 15%.
In a year like this a small opico dryer would be nice, but having to get a base and tank is another hassle.

A bank of 6 cylinders only taking a few % out with a 12 ton batch drier I would expect only to do half a dozen batches or so. (So not cheap)
Not really dried when been 20% as to be fair try and get it below 16%, As I usually take a chance on a moisture claim as I think it’s cheaper paying £3/ t for up to 1 percent moisture claim than threading it through the drier and costing gas / time + weight loss. However this season I might have to combine it wetter than usual.
Somebody else who does a lot more drying than me will be able to give you a better idea.