Grain Market Outlook 2021

Clive

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
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James

James - make no mistake, Red Tractor will be the end of AHDB cereals if this private company that has been funded and aided with levy payers cash for 20 years, operating as a protection racket for Uk cereal growers is not sorted out VERY soon. Please make sure that message gets through loud and clear
 

Grass And Grain

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Yorks
@AHDB Cereals and Oilseeds

Would you mind if I asked your opinion on another question...

I think AHDB as an organisation supports the concept of RT? That's fine for premium markets, can use RT logo etc. So far so good.

When our grain gets comingled with non-assured imported grain, the RT logo can't be used. So there's no point in the English farmer being RT. There's no opportunity for a premium price on the end product related to the part inclusion of RT grain, as the end product isn't RT branded. In such a scenario, can AHDB work to get levy payers market access in a similar manner to imports i.e. no requirement for farm level assurance, and hence remove the layer of RT assurance cost to access these markets. Does AHDB have a plan to help levy payers with this?

I'd also like to point out the failings of RT, and how it isn't working for levy payers...

RT is supposed to he the premium brand, for which we should theoretically receive a premium price. The problem is, is that RT is also the base standard for gaining access to UFAS feed mills. Not human consumption markets - but basic feed mill markets.

RT will never produce a premium in these markets if it is BOTH the base requirement AND trying to be the premium brand. This is why farmers consider RT to be a failure. Essentially mandatory, but produces no premium price.

As farmers we need to create premium prices for our grain, and AHDB should try to help us achieve that.

If the base intake requirement to feed mills is altered to a farmer pesticide declaration, then RT grain has an opportunity to produce a premium price over the import equivalent grain. AHDB can continue to support RT, and farmers would be happy.

Feed mills could choose if they wanted pesticide declaration grain, or RT grain. Farmers could choose to be RT assured or not. Premiums would be market led.

Mills and farmers should be afforded choice. We shouldn't be told what standard is good for us, we can decide that for ourselves. It's not for AHDB, NFU, RT or AIC to decide. We need a free market economy in assurance. Markets cannot operate freely if they are shackled by rules which prevent a free market. That's a basic principle of markets.


One last question I'd be greatful if you could please answer...

If a levy payer is not RT assured, but is producing grain to UK legislative standards, do AHDB consider that grain to be safe to sell into either feed or human consumption markets? Is it safe for our farmed livestock? is it safe for the end consumer? Or is it IN ANY WAY UNSAFE, poisonous or a food safety concern?

This is an important question, and I wonder if AHDB might provide a statement as to if AHDB consider that grain to be either safe (or unsafe) for supply into our markets.

Thank you. Look forward to hearing your thoughts.


The overall ask is, can AHDB develop greater market access for non-RT grain. There are small scale growers, who only grow feed grains. AIC allow a simple pesticide declaration as an acceptable method of assuring imported grain. Can AHDB get equivalence for UK grain? If not, why not?
 
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fermec860

Member
Location
Warwicshire
Even when I left Red Tractor because I've had enough of the nonsense, some of my levy money still went to the parasites. Utter disgrace to the industry. Sooner a vote, the better, get rid. I have read some of your email replies to other members and wishy washy, fluff round the edges nonsense doesnt wash with me.
No different to RT or the idiots NFU but then you're all in shafting the UK farmer for your own gains.
Can you find ahome for your harvest then I did enqire it is possible for a couple of quid per ton lower
 

MrNoo

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Cirencester
Can you find ahome for your harvest then I did enqire it is possible for a couple of quid per ton lower
Yes, pretty much, with a bit of dealing and wheeling WW went for milling, dont ask how! Cant tell you. SB was being blended away with malting barley as was in spec but then I mentioned it on here my trader had several early morning phone calls and I had to remove my posts and it stopped.
Rest of SB has been going in a 19t blower lorry.
Spring wheat that is in spec is in the shed still.
Anything I have grown with good quality the price offered has been good, £5-10 off market price (mainly because it would get blended away with RT stuff)
But the SW price has been very poor £20/t off.
This year has opened my eyes, mainly about how utterly "bent" the trade is and what a complete and utter con RT is, voluntary apparently but in reality not, especially if you want "market" price.
 

teslacoils

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
While the levy is statutory, why should they listen to us.........unless there are efforts to mobilise the required number to get a motion on their continued existence into play.
 

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quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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